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Good post, TRex. Appreciate your effort.


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Originally Posted by Ranger99
Originally Posted by jmp300wsm
Cant find them here at all. Sierra used to be the most stocked brand in almost every shop here but now they are non existent? What and where are they sending it all to?


Since I've been loading I've found the market
kinda shakey. ( no real internet like today when
I started)
The bullets everybody had were Speers, so that's
what I worked up loads with. Then, the Speers
started getting scarce and the green boxes of
Sierras were in abundance. Now with the local
gun shops about gone here the ones that are
left have mostly Hornady.
One lesson I have learned is to stock up as
much as you think a lifetime supply of whatever
powder and primer and bullet you have perfected
in your loads, because you'll look up and whatever
you need for your pet load will be discontinued.
It's happened to me several times with bullets
and powders

THIS!

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They won't kill a Spike though,seem to make ground steeper,steaks taste better when sweltered overnight and you'll likely have to call Sierra,rather than retrieving same. Hint.


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Originally Posted by Sakohunter264
Are any of you using these bullets? I’ve heard the accuracy is awesome, just wonder how they perform on game?

As to the accuracy issue - I was working up an elk hunting load for a .30-06 this year. Used the 165 NAB and 165 TGK (Gamechanger) among others and the NAB (actually, these were ProShop 2nds) shot as well as the TGK. I went with the NAB and it killed a big bull. From the other posts on this thread, it looks like the TGK doesn't hold together particularly well.

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I took a good mulie buck last Saturday in Montana. Easily over 300 lbs on the hoof. He died 20 yards from where he stood on impact. Heart shot at 294 yards. Bullet was a 140 grain Gamechanger out of a .270 Winchester. Complete pass through.

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Rex. Nice buck and great real world write up.
Thanks


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Originally Posted by TRexF16
I have some hard data to share on the 175 gr .270 TGK. Just killed a nice mule deer with it last Sunday in Montana.
[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]
Fired in a 1:8 twist 270 WSM. Loaded to a little more than the 6.8 Western (2850 FPS - probably leaving 75 FPS on the table, but it shoots really well in my rifle at that speed). The buck was at 400 yards even, quartering towards me, across a canyon, with a strong direct right crosswind blowing. I held 2 MOA for the wind and should have held 3. The first round was intended for the point of the near shoulder but actually hit aft center of the right ribs, got some of the right lung, penetrated the diaphragm and went through the liver. This bullet happily did not open the stomach or guts and lodged in the left ham, with 2.5 to 3 feet of penetration. The core and the jacket were lying next to each other but had separated when the round came to a stop.
[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]
The piece of core fit right into the jacket and you could see how the long chunk of core and jacket were aligned until they separated in the ham.
[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]
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Retained weight of the jacket and core was 107.7 grains, 61.5% weight retention.
I heard the bullet hit and the buck trotted/walked downhill maybe 20 yards then stopped on the rimrock just short of a thick patch of junipers. He looked pretty wobbly but I'm a "shoot 'till they're down" guy, and I didn't want to lose him in the junipers, so I sent another one - this time broadside and "schooled" a little on the wind. This one fully penetrated and he dropped right there. Here's the exit wound:
[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]
Don't reckon I can complain though I would really like it if the core and jacket were bonded, if that could be done without sacrificing accuracy. I have always been a Nosler or Barnes guy so spoiled on bullet integrity.
Overall, I have a nice skull for the wall and meat for the freezer! Hope this review helps somebody.

Cheers,
Rex

A misplaced shot, which you did your best, can’t be used for your take on a bullet failure. It would’ve done the job if placed where it needed to be. Cup and cores have been doing it on thin skinned, and heavier game too, for decades.

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Since my last post in this thread, I killed the biggest whitetail doe I've ever killed a few weekends ago with a 130 gr Sierra Tipped Game King from a 6.5 PRC. The shot was 340 yards, give or take and at a mild angle. The bullet entered behind the shoulder and either due to angle or deflection, exited the opposite rear quarter. When skinning the deer, I found a large chunk of jacket on the shot-side ribs, but I did not weigh it. Not perfect shot placement, but the bullet did its job and killed the deer within 20 yards of the shot. For thin-skin game, I can't see a reason not to use it. Accuracy on the rifle is about 1/2 MOA. For elk, certainly go mono or bonded. I didn't think to take any pictures, but the fact that it did exit and did kill the animal with a single shot is promising.

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Originally Posted by anothergun
Originally Posted by TRexF16
I have some hard data to share on the 175 gr .270 TGK. Just killed a nice mule deer with it last Sunday in Montana.
[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]
Fired in a 1:8 twist 270 WSM. Loaded to a little more than the 6.8 Western (2850 FPS - probably leaving 75 FPS on the table, but it shoots really well in my rifle at that speed). The buck was at 400 yards even, quartering towards me, across a canyon, with a strong direct right crosswind blowing. I held 2 MOA for the wind and should have held 3. The first round was intended for the point of the near shoulder but actually hit aft center of the right ribs, got some of the right lung, penetrated the diaphragm and went through the liver. This bullet happily did not open the stomach or guts and lodged in the left ham, with 2.5 to 3 feet of penetration. The core and the jacket were lying next to each other but had separated when the round came to a stop.
[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]
The piece of core fit right into the jacket and you could see how the long chunk of core and jacket were aligned until they separated in the ham.
[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]
[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]
Retained weight of the jacket and core was 107.7 grains, 61.5% weight retention.
I heard the bullet hit and the buck trotted/walked downhill maybe 20 yards then stopped on the rimrock just short of a thick patch of junipers. He looked pretty wobbly but I'm a "shoot 'till they're down" guy, and I didn't want to lose him in the junipers, so I sent another one - this time broadside and "schooled" a little on the wind. This one fully penetrated and he dropped right there. Here's the exit wound:
[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]
Don't reckon I can complain though I would really like it if the core and jacket were bonded, if that could be done without sacrificing accuracy. I have always been a Nosler or Barnes guy so spoiled on bullet integrity.
Overall, I have a nice skull for the wall and meat for the freezer! Hope this review helps somebody.

Cheers,
Rex

A misplaced shot, which you did your best, can’t be used for your take on a bullet failure. It would’ve done the job if placed where it needed to be. Cup and cores have been doing it on thin skinned, and heavier game too, for decades.

Do you hunt? Or just a target shooter?


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Nice looking meat, trex! Good eating!

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Originally Posted by anothergun
Originally Posted by TRexF16
I have some hard data to share on the 175 gr .270 TGK. Just killed a nice mule deer with it last Sunday in Montana.
[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]
Fired in a 1:8 twist 270 WSM. Loaded to a little more than the 6.8 Western (2850 FPS - probably leaving 75 FPS on the table, but it shoots really well in my rifle at that speed). The buck was at 400 yards even, quartering towards me, across a canyon, with a strong direct right crosswind blowing. I held 2 MOA for the wind and should have held 3. The first round was intended for the point of the near shoulder but actually hit aft center of the right ribs, got some of the right lung, penetrated the diaphragm and went through the liver. This bullet happily did not open the stomach or guts and lodged in the left ham, with 2.5 to 3 feet of penetration. The core and the jacket were lying next to each other but had separated when the round came to a stop.
[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]
The piece of core fit right into the jacket and you could see how the long chunk of core and jacket were aligned until they separated in the ham.
[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]
[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]
Retained weight of the jacket and core was 107.7 grains, 61.5% weight retention.
I heard the bullet hit and the buck trotted/walked downhill maybe 20 yards then stopped on the rimrock just short of a thick patch of junipers. He looked pretty wobbly but I'm a "shoot 'till they're down" guy, and I didn't want to lose him in the junipers, so I sent another one - this time broadside and "schooled" a little on the wind. This one fully penetrated and he dropped right there. Here's the exit wound:
[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]
Don't reckon I can complain though I would really like it if the core and jacket were bonded, if that could be done without sacrificing accuracy. I have always been a Nosler or Barnes guy so spoiled on bullet integrity.
Overall, I have a nice skull for the wall and meat for the freezer! Hope this review helps somebody.

Cheers,
Rex

A misplaced shot, which you did your best, can’t be used for your take on a bullet failure. It would’ve done the job if placed where it needed to be. Cup and cores have been doing it on thin skinned, and heavier game too, for decades.

I'd say it worked great as the outcome was .....the deer died and went home with the hunter.

You gots any huntin' pics with dead critters? Or just critique of how everyone else does it.
Or to say it another way....you sure talk a lot of [bleep].

ETA Nice TRexF16 Congrats.

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Originally Posted by Featherweight6555
Originally Posted by anothergun
Originally Posted by TRexF16
I have some hard data to share on the 175 gr .270 TGK. Just killed a nice mule deer with it last Sunday in Montana.
[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]
Fired in a 1:8 twist 270 WSM. Loaded to a little more than the 6.8 Western (2850 FPS - probably leaving 75 FPS on the table, but it shoots really well in my rifle at that speed). The buck was at 400 yards even, quartering towards me, across a canyon, with a strong direct right crosswind blowing. I held 2 MOA for the wind and should have held 3. The first round was intended for the point of the near shoulder but actually hit aft center of the right ribs, got some of the right lung, penetrated the diaphragm and went through the liver. This bullet happily did not open the stomach or guts and lodged in the left ham, with 2.5 to 3 feet of penetration. The core and the jacket were lying next to each other but had separated when the round came to a stop.
[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]
The piece of core fit right into the jacket and you could see how the long chunk of core and jacket were aligned until they separated in the ham.
[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]
[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]
Retained weight of the jacket and core was 107.7 grains, 61.5% weight retention.
I heard the bullet hit and the buck trotted/walked downhill maybe 20 yards then stopped on the rimrock just short of a thick patch of junipers. He looked pretty wobbly but I'm a "shoot 'till they're down" guy, and I didn't want to lose him in the junipers, so I sent another one - this time broadside and "schooled" a little on the wind. This one fully penetrated and he dropped right there. Here's the exit wound:
[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]
Don't reckon I can complain though I would really like it if the core and jacket were bonded, if that could be done without sacrificing accuracy. I have always been a Nosler or Barnes guy so spoiled on bullet integrity.
Overall, I have a nice skull for the wall and meat for the freezer! Hope this review helps somebody.

Cheers,
Rex

A misplaced shot, which you did your best, can’t be used for your take on a bullet failure. It would’ve done the job if placed where it needed to be. Cup and cores have been doing it on thin skinned, and heavier game too, for decades.

I'd say it worked great as the outcome was .....the deer died and went home with the hunter.

You gots any huntin' pics with dead critters? Or just critique of how everyone else does it.
Or to say it another way....you sure talk a lot of [bleep].

ETA Nice TRexF16 Congrats.


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