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Remington list the current 7 mm mag as having a 1/8 twist

If only because I shoot it all and then some. Hint.

The Mash' was a MUCH better cartridge in 1950,than it is Today. Why? The advent of KNOWN Distance,ala LRF. That conjoined with Today's bullets,mechanically allows a farrrrr lesser case capacity and vastly fhuqking superior projectile,to STOMP it. As plainly cited,the Mash' hasn't the COAL requisite,to do ANY fhuqking favors Today. Hint.

In The Day however,you simply added all the fuel you could to the equation and launched schit(literally),as fast as fhuqking possible,to hedge UKD. Them days are wayyyyyyyy gone. Hint.

Also as plainly cited,Big Green's "Old School" 7mm RemMag RPM,stabilizes the .796 180 ELD,just fine. That at Low Tide and in Winter. The 8" is VERY welcomed,but required much more in say 7-08,rather than 7mm RemMag,because Gross RPM is that which factors stability. The Em-Em's velocity advantage,capably carries it over that threshold. Pardon my being afforded the luxuries,of not being forced to guess. Hint.

Though I have 'em(7mm RemMag) in 8" too. Hint.



Just sayin'...............

Man, you guys are rough on the old Mashburn and 70’s..


I’m taking my ball and going home..

Screw you guys


I think most all of the 7’s are pretty wicked hunting rifles set up correct. It’d be something to see 7 Rem Ammo loaded with 175/180’s with the box marked for 1-8 twist or something like that.

Like any/all other things,not everything is "equal" or close. Hint.

I've only had a couple 7 STW's(we all did),30 STW's/Super's and even suffered a 30-378. Contemplated a 257 STW,but thankfully,Technology saved me. Of course I drove multiple 375 H&H AI's(5) and shot out a 378 Wby. BT/DT and have all the T-shirts. Such things,make extrapolations rather EASY and I've zero regrets on the journey(s). Hint.

BEWARE the man with one rifle...because he doesn't know a fhuqking thing. Hint................(grin)

Ha! Yeah, might’ve been true in 1947.. today, you’re spot on. Insert ear plugs and walk away.

And to think all I had for 15 years plus was a low life 280 Ackley Improved and a 140g Nosler Ballistic tip.......

Ha.. I think you’ve pushed past that point now though.

Gawd, you have a pickup box full of good ones.

I like an 8" twist in .284", whether in 7RM or 7-08, for launching 180s. Like you said, it's not mission critical, but I like to have it. That's mostly because, in 7mm, a change of 400 fps in MV equates to approximately ~0.25" in twist rate, for a given level of stability. It gives me the warm fuzzy to get my bullets spinning so their SG is over 1.5 and eeking out all the BC possible.

7 rem mag twisted 8. Don't reinvent the wheel guys. A 280 rem with an 8 twist launching 160s will keep in stride with the "precision" rifle cartridge. If your after horse power, grab a 28 nosler, shoot a 180, and be happy. That 7 prc is just another cartridge.

"Precision Rifle Cartridge" lmao. What a crock of schit.

OK will confess to LOL'ing at this.

Also, the one rifle hunter depends on the purpose of the rifle. For long range or target stuff, sure. For putting meat in the freezer, I know a couple hunters who've been using a 280 and a 270, respectively, for 50+ years and have killed more deer, elk, and hogs than I'll ever see in my life.

"Precision Rifle Cartridge" lmao. What a crock of schit.?

Would you like to elaborate? It's a pretty good improvement over the 7mm RM and just about any 7mm available today.

Another cartridge to get into your pocket. You can seat a bullet out and fill the case. So what, people have been doing that with wildcats for 75 years. You can buy a factory rifle, I get it, but they aren't spec'd out like a custom, unless you wanna drop 3 grand on a carbon fiber this or that. That 7prc will get 100 feet per second over a boring old 7 mag set up factory. Build a 7 mag throated for 180s and all of a sudden your neck and neck, if not better. The king of the 7s is the ultra or stw. But, those aren't apples to apples. Lots of powder, different deal. If I'm dropping coin on a 7, it's gonna be a 7x300 win mag. All that said, a 7 rem mag, 1:8, throated properly, will stay in pace with a prc. May take some experimenting with components, but it can be done.

I've hunted with a custom 7mm RM almost exclusively for the past two decades and it's a great cartridge, so it the 280 but I don't handload anymore so factory fodder that's available and affordable (one of the reason I sold my two Weatherby chambered rifles) counts to me. The 7mm PRC may be a bit much for southern deer hunters where shots are generally close but I see it as peerless for elk and mule deer. Faster isn't always better, with velocity comes recoil. The PRC (call it what you like) is effective, accurate, easy to shoot and purpose designed for long, high BC projectiles. I'd fancy the 280 with 160s but my loading gear is packed up and not likely to be dusted off anytime soon.

I'm not suggesting that anyone should abandon their 7 RM or 280 but in my case, building DIY rifles is entertaining so why not pick a cartridge that lives up the the billing. I screwed a Proof barrel to my Defiance receiver and shot .574" three shot with factory ammo first trip to the range, what's not to like?

Different cartridge, same result. Next.

So what “different result” are you looking for?

Not really!

Same result. Not "different result"

Explain. What is the benefits of a prc? Fatter case? Shorter case? Seat a bullet out further? You can do that with a 7 rem also. Must be the precision part.

Higher velocity
Beltless (belts serve no practical purpose on modern cartridges except the 300 H&H) and they make cartridges wonky in magazines and take up space.
Proper neck
Modern shoulder for better accuracty
High BC bullets don't intrude into case

The 7mm RM is a great cartridge, especially for 140-160s but the PRC is simply better when the game is larger and the distance is longer.