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Bill,
I have purchased three left handed NULA rifles in the last year.
I’m looking forward to your LH models.
Likes lefty rifles. Guntalk in web searches.
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I think Mr Wilson has taken this feedback to heart especially about the Fieldcraft being a home run. More like a grand slam actually.
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Sorry since 1-8 is by far our best selling twist for AR bbls they will be 1-8 with .223 Wylde chambers. I'm not sure on mag box length, I'd have to ask one of our engineers. The reason the 1:8 is a top seller is because people not in the know associate 5.56 as being a sloppy chamber where as the 223 Wylde is thought of as a match type chamber and it’s what you twisted your Wyldes. Your 5.56s are 1:7 and that’s where a bolt gun needs to be to take advantage of a larger box for seating long bullets. Fast twist is king for everything despite the mentality of “Ive never needed more for hunting to 400 yards”. I’ve bought a couple of your barrels in 6.8 for ARs and they are nothing short of amazing in the accuracy department.
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Yes, the progression is like this
M20 M20S (both hinged floorplate and detachable AR mag versions) M24 M28 Based on my Outkast CLR when that M28 comes out in 7PRC it will be one sweet shootin', 6 lb badass. And, I'm guessing with the bottom metal it'll hold three down.
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Yes, the progression is like this
M20 M20S (both hinged floorplate and detachable AR mag versions) M24 M28 Based on my Outkast CLR when that M28 comes out in 7PRC it will be one sweet shootin', 6 lb badass. And, I'm guessing with the bottom metal it'll hold three down. Hopefully you get more than 3.34" in your mag-box. That's what the original 28 housed down below, had to go 32 to get a 3.7" box.
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As I mentioned prior,it'd help folks who actually shoot,that COAL confines were cited in the relative receiver progression list. Hint.
It is plum AMAZING to me,how very little Manufacturers "know" or shoot. Hint...............
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Yep, pretty amazing that we can even hit a target with the little knowledge that Manufacturers "know".
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Gun manufacturers know how to make good 30-30 and 30-06 and that fact has kept me afield and killing game since 1986. Really haven't been limited any
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Yes, the progression is like this
M20 M20S (both hinged floorplate and detachable AR mag versions) M24 M28 Based on my Outkast CLR when that M28 comes out in 7PRC it will be one sweet shootin', 6 lb badass. And, I'm guessing with the bottom metal it'll hold three down. Hopefully you get more than 3.34" in your mag-box. That's what the original 28 housed down below, had to go 32 to get a 3.7" box. Might be 3.34 or maybe 3.4 - can't tell without pulling her apart which I don't want to do 'cause she's all sighted in for hunting season. Plenty of room for factory stuff which is my main concern. Here it is with the Federal ELD X load which is 3.187" - interestingly a tenth of an inch shorter than the Hornady loads:
"One should not talk to a skilled hunter about what is forbidden by the Buddha." - Hsiang-yen by way of Gary Snyder
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Yes, the progression is like this
M20 M20S (both hinged floorplate and detachable AR mag versions) M24 M28 Based on my Outkast CLR when that M28 comes out in 7PRC it will be one sweet shootin', 6 lb badass. And, I'm guessing with the bottom metal it'll hold three down. Hopefully you get more than 3.34" in your mag-box. That's what the original 28 housed down below, had to go 32 to get a 3.7" box. Might be 3.34 or maybe 3.4 - can't tell without pulling her apart which I don't want to do 'cause she's all sighted in for hunting season. Plenty of room for factory stuff which is my main concern. Here it is with the Federal ELD X load which is 3.187" - interestingly a tenth of an inch shorter than the Hornady loads: Is it a 1/10" or 10 thou shorter? Looks pretty tight at 3.187
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Yes, the progression is like this
M20 M20S (both hinged floorplate and detachable AR mag versions) M24 M28 Based on my Outkast CLR when that M28 comes out in 7PRC it will be one sweet shootin', 6 lb badass. And, I'm guessing with the bottom metal it'll hold three down. Hopefully you get more than 3.34" in your mag-box. That's what the original 28 housed down below, had to go 32 to get a 3.7" box. Might be 3.34 or maybe 3.4 - can't tell without pulling her apart which I don't want to do 'cause she's all sighted in for hunting season. Plenty of room for factory stuff which is my main concern. Here it is with the Federal ELD X load which is 3.187" - interestingly a tenth of an inch shorter than the Hornady loads: What is that pictured rifle chambered for?
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If someone likes a bit extra mag box OAL to play with, I think the 6.5 PRC would be the sweet spot for the M28. The 7 PRC wouldn't have much room to grow.
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Yes, the progression is like this
M20 M20S (both hinged floorplate and detachable AR mag versions) M24 M28 Based on my Outkast CLR when that M28 comes out in 7PRC it will be one sweet shootin', 6 lb badass. And, I'm guessing with the bottom metal it'll hold three down. Hopefully you get more than 3.34" in your mag-box. That's what the original 28 housed down below, had to go 32 to get a 3.7" box. Might be 3.34 or maybe 3.4 - can't tell without pulling her apart which I don't want to do 'cause she's all sighted in for hunting season. Plenty of room for factory stuff which is my main concern. Here it is with the Federal ELD X load which is 3.187" - interestingly a tenth of an inch shorter than the Hornady loads: Is it a 1/10" or 10 thou shorter? Looks pretty tight at 3.187 So, the Hornady 180 ELD M load is 3.288. Which seems like a big difference to me too, but there it is. This morning I took a 180 ELD M and stuck it in an unfired case, snug fit, and left it long, markered the bullet, and then closed the bolt on it. Which is how you guys figure OAL to kiss the lands from what I've read? When I extracted the cartridge it was 3.3835. It was a smidge too long for the mag box so, must be a 3.34 mag box. So, if you want to experiment with kissing lands in a SAAMI chamber and 180 ELDMs, you're going to want more OAL in your mag box. For me the goal was factory ammo and, the 180 ELD M factory load has given me a bunch of 1/2 - 3/8 inch 3-shot groups. .05 inches of cushion in the box is pretty tight. But, I have been shooting groups out of the mag and so far the accuracy has been outstanding.
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Yes, the progression is like this
M20 M20S (both hinged floorplate and detachable AR mag versions) M24 M28 Based on my Outkast CLR when that M28 comes out in 7PRC it will be one sweet shootin', 6 lb badass. And, I'm guessing with the bottom metal it'll hold three down. Hopefully you get more than 3.34" in your mag-box. That's what the original 28 housed down below, had to go 32 to get a 3.7" box. Might be 3.34 or maybe 3.4 - can't tell without pulling her apart which I don't want to do 'cause she's all sighted in for hunting season. Plenty of room for factory stuff which is my main concern. Here it is with the Federal ELD X load which is 3.187" - interestingly a tenth of an inch shorter than the Hornady loads: What is that pictured rifle chambered for? 7PRC
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Yes, the progression is like this
M20 M20S (both hinged floorplate and detachable AR mag versions) M24 M28 Based on my Outkast CLR when that M28 comes out in 7PRC it will be one sweet shootin', 6 lb badass. And, I'm guessing with the bottom metal it'll hold three down. Hopefully you get more than 3.34" in your mag-box. That's what the original 28 housed down below, had to go 32 to get a 3.7" box. Might be 3.34 or maybe 3.4 - can't tell without pulling her apart which I don't want to do 'cause she's all sighted in for hunting season. Plenty of room for factory stuff which is my main concern. Here it is with the Federal ELD X load which is 3.187" - interestingly a tenth of an inch shorter than the Hornady loads: Is it a 1/10" or 10 thou shorter? Looks pretty tight at 3.187 So, the Hornady 180 ELD M load is 3.288. Which seems like a big difference to me too, but there it is. This morning I took a 180 ELD M and stuck it in an unfired case, snug fit, and left it long, markered the bullet, and then closed the bolt on it. Which is how you guys figure OAL to kiss the lands from what I've read? When I extracted the cartridge it was 3.3835. It was a smidge too long for the mag box so, must be a 3.34 mag box. So, if you want to experiment with kissing lands in a SAAMI chamber and 180 ELDMs, you're going to want more OAL in your mag box. For me the goal was factory ammo and, the 180 ELD M factory load has given me a bunch of 1/2 - 3/8 inch 3-shot groups. .05 inches of cushion in the box is pretty tight. But, I have been shooting groups out of the mag and so far the accuracy has been outstanding. I think you met your goal. I wouldn't complain.
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If you’re a member at Gunbroker and know how to check the bidder list: https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1014133848
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And, that's one of the reasons he's successful. I'd still be thinking up nasty names for Mr. Stick!
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Yes, the progression is like this
M20 M20S (both hinged floorplate and detachable AR mag versions) M24 M28 Based on my Outkast CLR when that M28 comes out in 7PRC it will be one sweet shootin', 6 lb badass. And, I'm guessing with the bottom metal it'll hold three down. Hopefully you get more than 3.34" in your mag-box. That's what the original 28 housed down below, had to go 32 to get a 3.7" box. Might be 3.34 or maybe 3.4 - can't tell without pulling her apart which I don't want to do 'cause she's all sighted in for hunting season. Plenty of room for factory stuff which is my main concern. Here it is with the Federal ELD X load which is 3.187" - interestingly a tenth of an inch shorter than the Hornady loads: Is it a 1/10" or 10 thou shorter? Looks pretty tight at 3.187 So, the Hornady 180 ELD M load is 3.288. Which seems like a big difference to me too, but there it is. This morning I took a 180 ELD M and stuck it in an unfired case, snug fit, and left it long, markered the bullet, and then closed the bolt on it. Which is how you guys figure OAL to kiss the lands from what I've read? When I extracted the cartridge it was 3.3835. It was a smidge too long for the mag box so, must be a 3.34 mag box. So, if you want to experiment with kissing lands in a SAAMI chamber and 180 ELDMs, you're going to want more OAL in your mag box. For me the goal was factory ammo and, the 180 ELD M factory load has given me a bunch of 1/2 - 3/8 inch 3-shot groups. .05 inches of cushion in the box is pretty tight. But, I have been shooting groups out of the mag and so far the accuracy has been outstanding. With the way projectile development has gone, it'd be foolish to introduce a long-action that didn't house at least a 3.7" COAL. Wilson could skip the 24 and 28 altogether and just go straight to the 32 that already has the longer box. Given the option, almost everyone would gladly pay 4Oz for all the COAL in the belly they ever wanted or needed.
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It's fairly "impressive",that they are going to the lengths requisite,to fhuqk such EASY schit up and yield Goat Fhuqks. Hint.
t is plum AMAZING to me,how very little Manufacturers "know" or shoot. Hint...............
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