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Originally Posted by Roddy1993
we simply cannot rid the world of dangerous things and we certainly should not impose our will on others. when there is a large enough consensus it may get voted in, that act does not make it right. when there are two large enough groups that disagree then we have war. if argument is all that exists among a topic then argue you must. still doesn't mean either side is right. I myself do not have a dog in this debate hahahaha get it, DOG in this fight!!!! I amaze myself every day. carry on Karens and Boomers
Pretty well said.

I’m not sure how you would ban them anyhow. All a breeder would have to do is outcross to something similar and then it would be a mutt or a new designer dog rather than a pit.

You could ban everything that looked similar to a pit, English Bulldogs included but then breed for a similar temperament in something that looked completely different, an aggressive traditional working Doberman for instance. As long as there are large powerful dogs someone can and will easily figure out how to breed for whatever temperament and other traits that they want regardless of if it looked like a pit.


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Originally Posted by viking
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Just remember, when you advocate "outlawing" pit bulls, there are people saying the same thing about AR15's


You can leave an AR in a corner and it won’t hurt ya. It takes someone behind the trigger. A pit, not so much.


That much is obvious to anyone with half a brain, it still does not negate the fact that there are people saying the same thing about AR15's.


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Originally Posted by simonkenton7
A 63 year old woman, feeding her own pit bulls. Her leg was amputated. Liebe Gott!
They belong to her son...who lives with her. About the same thing.


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Originally Posted by TheLastLemming76
Originally Posted by Roddy1993
we simply cannot rid the world of dangerous things and we certainly should not impose our will on others. when there is a large enough consensus it may get voted in, that act does not make it right. when there are two large enough groups that disagree then we have war. if argument is all that exists among a topic then argue you must. still doesn't mean either side is right. I myself do not have a dog in this debate hahahaha get it, DOG in this fight!!!! I amaze myself every day. carry on Karens and Boomers
Pretty well said.

I’m not sure how you would ban them anyhow. All a breeder would have to do is outcross to something similar and then it would be a mutt or a new designer dog rather than a pit.

You could ban everything that looked similar to a pit English Bulldogs included but then breed for a similar temperament in something that looked completely different, an aggressive traditional working Doberman ect.
You are right, a ban would not work. The best thing is how we do it here. Make it unlawful for a dog to run at large.

Most people have no idea how many calls come in to the sheriff about dogs. When I was at the dispatch center writing reports I just told the complainers to catch him and deliver him to the pound and if he tried to bite kill him. The sheriff's personnel liked to turn animal complaints over to me such as bad dogs and starving horses.


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Originally Posted by bugs4
Just remember, when you advocate "outlawing" pit bulls, there are people saying the same thing about AR15's

This is one of the most retarded things I have read here in awhile


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Originally Posted by Hastings
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Originally Posted by Roddy1993
we simply cannot rid the world of dangerous things and we certainly should not impose our will on others. when there is a large enough consensus it may get voted in, that act does not make it right. when there are two large enough groups that disagree then we have war. if argument is all that exists among a topic then argue you must. still doesn't mean either side is right. I myself do not have a dog in this debate hahahaha get it, DOG in this fight!!!! I amaze myself every day. carry on Karens and Boomers
Pretty well said.

I’m not sure how you would ban them anyhow. All a breeder would have to do is outcross to something similar and then it would be a mutt or a new designer dog rather than a pit.

You could ban everything that looked similar to a pit English Bulldogs included but then breed for a similar temperament in something that looked completely different, an aggressive traditional working Doberman ect.
You are right, a ban would not work. The best thing is how we do it here. Make it unlawful for a dog to run at large.

Most people have no idea how many calls come in to the sheriff about dogs. When I was at the dispatch center writing reports I just told the complainers to catch him and deliver him to the pound and if he tried to bite kill him. The sheriff's personnel liked to turn animal complaints over to me such as bad dogs and starving horses.
Spot on.

It comes down to individual freedom and personal responsibility. Nothing short of banning every dog over 25 pounds or so would keep kids safe and not entirely then. If someone’s dog is running wild deal with the individual dog and owner.

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Originally Posted by irfubar
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Just remember, when you advocate "outlawing" pit bulls, there are people saying the same thing about AR15's

This is one of the most retarded things I have read here in awhile


I don't know why everyone is getting at Bugs, he didn't say pitbulls and AR's were the same, but there are a lot of people wanting to ban AR's because they perceive them as to dangerous to own.


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Originally Posted by 12344mag
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Originally Posted by bugs4
Just remember, when you advocate "outlawing" pit bulls, there are people saying the same thing about AR15's

This is one of the most retarded things I have read here in awhile


I don't know why everyone is getting at Bugs, he didn't say pitbulls and AR's were the same, but there are a lot of people wanting to ban AR's because they perceive them as to dangerous to own.

Now that I have re-read it, you may be correct... lets hear from Bug's


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I guess I'll shoot all the pit bulls with an AR.


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I guess I'll shoot all the pit bulls with an AR.




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Originally Posted by 12344mag
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Just remember, when you advocate "outlawing" pit bulls, there are people saying the same thing about AR15's


You can leave an AR in a corner and it won’t hurt ya. It takes someone behind the trigger. A pit, not so much.


That much is obvious to anyone with half a brain, it still does not negate the fact that there are people saying the same thing about AR15's.

And people claim you shouldn’t drive with a bac of .25
Or beat your wife

If you want to be retarded it’s not hard to poke holes in that bullshît.

Make owners liable up to and including the death penalty if a dog they own or are responsible for incur damage.

Maligators are super trendy now. Soon the same folks that think it’s super cool to breed or own a pit are going to destroy that breed as well.

Same is happening with the large guardian breeds.


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Originally Posted by bugs4
Just remember, when you advocate "outlawing" pit bulls, there are people saying the same thing about AR15's
Dog ownership not protected by the Constitution


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Have had run ins with all kinds of dogs .
Labs , German Shepards , Dobermans , Rottweilers , Beagles, shar pies , Pitts , Akita’s , Timber Shepards ,
Even collies , some just get a nasty attitude
I don’t hate any breed , awareness goes a long ways .
In the instance of the ole lady, shiet like that is a head scratcher
Bunch of pussy ass MFers wanting to kill them all is B.S.
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But just for the record , if you encounter a really aggressive dog , then by all means shoot it
Neighbors are a bunch of dumbasses
Got a bunch of mixed pitts inbred to the hilt .
Mostly scared off easily if they encounter an adult
One day while burning brush they came barreling into the yard snarling at dead run toward grand kids
Caught me with my pants down , no gun
But me and Brother in law was able to get between them and kids
They started disappearing after that
Ass wipes just kept letting them breed though , dog warden even gave them twenty for food
I thought , WTF ?
Finally a couple gal wardens took over and right now they have all but four of them
But they keep comming back , determined to catch them
Owner is incarcerated for non support
Figures huh ?

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Originally Posted by Ringman
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Just remember, when you advocate "outlawing" pit bulls, there are people saying the same thing about AR15's
Dog ownership not protected by the Constitution
These threads never fail to go on for pages.

Our Founders didn’t have the time or ink to spell out every possible Constitutional right in words. “Dog ownership not protected by the Constitution.”

Do you believe that the government has the right to ban dog ownership or to pick and choose which breed we can own?

Our country was based on individual rights and freedoms. Punish the individual rather than attempting to enforce unenforceable laws that strip freedom from everyone.

Bulldogs, and dogs breed solely for bullbaiting, and dog fighting were around at the founding of this country. I’m not sure how you could argue that our Founders believed that they should be banned.

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In many cases, man has proven is inability to manage his dominion over animals. This perennial problem is a great example.

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Originally Posted by wilkeshunter
In many cases, man has proven is inability to manage his dominion over animals. This perennial problem is a great example.

The willingness to cull the bad ones is lost.


Only about a quarter to maybe a third of dogs and horses should be allowed to reach maturity.....let alone breed.


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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
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In many cases, man has proven is inability to manage his dominion over animals. This perennial problem is a great example.

The willingness to cull the bad ones is lost.


Only about a quarter to maybe a third of dogs and horses should be allowed to reach maturity.....let alone breed.

Goes for a lot of people too; the breeding part anyway.


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