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I carry a Sig P365 year round. I shoot it sometimes in IDPA matches and can get good hits to 25 yards pretty consistently.
I think they are a great carry pistol, but in no way can I shoot it as fast or accurately as my P320 X5 Legion which is what I shoot in most matches. But that gun weighs over 40 ounces unloaded and is not very practical for me to carry all the time.
It's easy to carry a P365 in virtually all situations and it's still pretty easy to shoot well. I used to carry a Glock 26 but now prefer the P365.
The choice of a carry gun is a personal preference. The P365 is my choice because I think it balances shootability and ease of carry very well.
Everyone gets to make their own choice based on the factors they think are important. But I will say I'm not that comfortable carrying a .380 or J Frame as a primary weapon.
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I carry a Sig P365 year round. I shoot it sometimes in IDPA matches and can get good hits to 25 yards pretty consistently.
I think they are a great carry pistol, but in no way can I shoot it as fast or accurately as my P320 X5 Legion which is what I shoot in most matches. But that gun weighs over 40 ounces unloaded and is not very practical for me to carry all the time.
It's easy to carry a P365 in virtually all situations and it's still pretty easy to shoot well. I used to carry a Glock 26 but now prefer the P365.
The choice of a carry gun is a personal preference. The P365 is my choice because I think it balances shootability and ease of carry very well.
Everyone gets to make their own choice based on the factors they think are important. But I will say I'm not that comfortable carrying a .380 or J Frame as a primary weapon. How did you place in your IDPA matches with your 365, versus your P320?
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Just a word of appreciation to all for this great thread.
All the bad guys are packing Glocks? Makes sense.
Carry a gun you can fight with? Makes sense too.
I can pull a j-frame out of a front pocket in no time at all….. unless I’m sitting down…. and if I do it’s still only a j-frame.
Time to up my game. A Glock 43 is the J Frame of the new Millennia.
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I carry a Sig P365 year round. I shoot it sometimes in IDPA matches and can get good hits to 25 yards pretty consistently.
I think they are a great carry pistol, but in no way can I shoot it as fast or accurately as my P320 X5 Legion which is what I shoot in most matches. But that gun weighs over 40 ounces unloaded and is not very practical for me to carry all the time.
It's easy to carry a P365 in virtually all situations and it's still pretty easy to shoot well. I used to carry a Glock 26 but now prefer the P365.
The choice of a carry gun is a personal preference. The P365 is my choice because I think it balances shootability and ease of carry very well.
Everyone gets to make their own choice based on the factors they think are important. But I will say I'm not that comfortable carrying a .380 or J Frame as a primary weapon. How did you place in your IDPA matches with your 365, versus your P320? I score lower with a P365 vs the X5 Legion. Smaller guns are harder to shoot than full size guns. But I still shoot well enough to defend myself. I should note that in IDPA, a P365 competes in a different division than the P320 X5 Legion. The X5 legion is in Carry Optics (since I use a red dot) and the P365 is in BUG (back up gun.)
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Just a word of appreciation to all for this great thread.
All the bad guys are packing Glocks? Makes sense.
Carry a gun you can fight with? Makes sense too.
I can pull a j-frame out of a front pocket in no time at all….. unless I’m sitting down…. and if I do it’s still only a j-frame.
Time to up my game. A Glock 43 is the J Frame of the new Millennia. I still think a J Frame is the J Frame of the new millenia, seeing as how they are still being made and carried by a lot of people.
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Just a word of appreciation to all for this great thread.
All the bad guys are packing Glocks? Makes sense.
Carry a gun you can fight with? Makes sense too.
I can pull a j-frame out of a front pocket in no time at all….. unless I’m sitting down…. and if I do it’s still only a j-frame.
Time to up my game. A Glock 43 is the J Frame of the new Millennia. I still think a J Frame is the J Frame of the new millenia, seeing as how they are still being made and carried by a lot of people. Nothing wrong with carrying a J frame.. as your second weapon.
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And a lot of practical experience. A person needs to get the mindset of carrying what they might really need, not what is the most handy. A 2 shot NAA derringer is better than nothing but a bad guy with a Glock will make short work of that idea. TRH will shoot someone in the dick with his NAA derringer before you can say Anaconda. Most likely that will end the argument.
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Size comparison--2" J Frame, Glock 43. The 43 is thinner, carries 2 more rounds, and has a better trigger. I think most people will be able to shoot the 43 much better than they can a 2" J frame. https://www.handgunhero.com/compare/glock-g43-vs-smith-wesson-model-642
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Just a word of appreciation to all for this great thread.
All the bad guys are packing Glocks? Makes sense.
Carry a gun you can fight with? Makes sense too.
I can pull a j-frame out of a front pocket in no time at all….. unless I’m sitting down…. and if I do it’s still only a j-frame.
Time to up my game. A Glock 43 is the J Frame of the new Millennia. I still think a J Frame is the J Frame of the new millenia, seeing as how they are still being made and carried by a lot of people. Nothing wrong with carrying a J frame.. as your second weapon. Absolutely, never as a primary.
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And a lot of practical experience. A person needs to get the mindset of carrying what they might really need, not what is the most handy. A 2 shot NAA derringer is better than nothing but a bad guy with a Glock will make short work of that idea. TRH will shoot someone in the dick with his NAA derringer before you can say Anaconda. Most likely that will end the argument.
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I carry a Sig P365 year round. I shoot it sometimes in IDPA matches and can get good hits to 25 yards pretty consistently.
I think they are a great carry pistol, but in no way can I shoot it as fast or accurately as my P320 X5 Legion which is what I shoot in most matches. But that gun weighs over 40 ounces unloaded and is not very practical for me to carry all the time.
It's easy to carry a P365 in virtually all situations and it's still pretty easy to shoot well. I used to carry a Glock 26 but now prefer the P365.
The choice of a carry gun is a personal preference. The P365 is my choice because I think it balances shootability and ease of carry very well.
Everyone gets to make their own choice based on the factors they think are important. But I will say I'm not that comfortable carrying a .380 or J Frame as a primary weapon. How did you place in your IDPA matches with your 365, versus your P320? I score lower with a P365 vs the X5 Legion. Smaller guns are harder to shoot than full size guns. But I still shoot well enough to defend myself. I should note that in IDPA, a P365 competes in a different division than the P320 X5 Legion. The X5 legion is in Carry Optics (since I use a red dot) and the P365 is in BUG (back up gun.) Try your scores at 5 yards - the distance at which you would likely be defending yourself anyway. Probably won't be a bit of difference in those scores.
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Try your scores at 5 yards - the distance at which you would likely be defending yourself anyway. Probably won't be a bit of difference in those scores. Oldie but goodie. LOL
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I score lower with a P365 vs the X5 Legion. Smaller guns are harder to shoot than full size guns. But I still shoot well enough to defend myself.
I should note that in IDPA, a P365 competes in a different division than the P320 X5 Legion. The X5 legion is in Carry Optics (since I use a red dot) and the P365 is in BUG (back up gun.) Yes I understand. But if you enter with a 365 in the same division that has everyone else using a P320 size gun, where do you place? And how does this contrast against how you place with your full size gun?
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I score lower with a P365 vs the X5 Legion. Smaller guns are harder to shoot than full size guns. But I still shoot well enough to defend myself.
I should note that in IDPA, a P365 competes in a different division than the P320 X5 Legion. The X5 legion is in Carry Optics (since I use a red dot) and the P365 is in BUG (back up gun.) Yes I understand. But if you enter with a 365 in the same division that has everyone else using a P320 size gun, where do you place? And how does this contrast against how you place with your full size gun? As I said, I score lower with the P365. And I see the same pattern with other experienced shooters when they shoot a BUG. That's why there are different divisions. It's common knowledge that full sized guns are easier to shoot. Still, a skilled shooter can do well with a compact gun, though he might do even better in the combined ranking with a full sized gun.
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A Glock 43 is the J Frame of the new Millennia. A fine firearm to be sure, but I’m pretty sure Ol’ Gaston (he’s still alive at 94) intended for his inventions to be carried with a holster secured snugly around that wide, squared-off trigger guard and that 5.5lb “safe” ( ) action trigger. Opinions may vary but for pocket carry the j-frame reigns supreme.
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For you guys that IWB fairly slim full-size autos like the 1911, G48, etc, how many inches did you need to move up in your waist size of your pants, on average?
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For you guys that IWB fairly slim full-size autos like the 1911, G48, etc, how many inches did you need to move up in your waist size of your pants, on average? 1".
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For you guys that IWB fairly slim full-size autos like the 1911, G48, etc, how many inches did you need to move up in your waist size of your pants, on average? I've been carrying IWB since the early 1990s (from 1980 till the early 1990s, pocket, OWB, and sometimes the old fashioned style IWB holsters), for the most part full sized handguns like K-Frame S&W revolvers, 1911s, and Glock 19/17 (more recently, the Glock 26). I have never purchased pants with that in mind. Not once. What I adjust is the belt notch that I use when I'm carrying vs when I'm not. That's all.
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I score lower with a P365 vs the X5 Legion. Smaller guns are harder to shoot than full size guns. But I still shoot well enough to defend myself.
I should note that in IDPA, a P365 competes in a different division than the P320 X5 Legion. The X5 legion is in Carry Optics (since I use a red dot) and the P365 is in BUG (back up gun.) Yes I understand. But if you enter with a 365 in the same division that has everyone else using a P320 size gun, where do you place? And how does this contrast against how you place with your full size gun? As I said, I score lower with the P365. And I see the same pattern with other experienced shooters when they shoot a BUG. That's why there are different divisions. It's common knowledge that full sized guns are easier to shoot. Still, a skilled shooter can do well with a compact gun, though he might do even better in the combined ranking with a full sized gun. Predictable that this would eventually come up in a discussion on ED SD carry but really irrelevant. The only score that counts in the real world is whether you’re alive - hopefully not irrepairably wounded - and the threat(s) is/are neutralized, if you can’t avoid a situation which none of us ever wants, but imposes itself upon our lives. Most of the factors that produce that result are related to always carrying without exception, mindset, proper training, ammunition, and familiarity with the carry pistol when the SHTF. There are no categories to ‘make it fair’ for different pistols. The outcome is a binary possibility - who’s walking and talking at the end … and who’s not. Nature tends to be pretty uninterested and ruthless in the outcome as far as tipping the scales. Just my take watching this thread develop. YMMV.
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Here is an interesting comparison between a loaded, with a reload, J-frame an Sig 365XL with a full 12 round magazine and one chambered. This is not the lightest J-frame, but the XL is not the lightest 365. Since I own both, for me, the Sig is much easier to shoot than the Smith. It is pretty easy to see why the 365 is so popular.
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