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This latest Wilson version is my favorite (with the addition of bottom metal especially) I may try one in .308 Win but the non-stainless reciever is a let-down for Me....best of luck to Mr. Wilsons new rifle đź‘Ť....Hb The bolt and receiver has Armorlube DLC hard corrosion resistant coating. We considered stainless, but decided we didn't want to fight potential galling issues with the tight tolerances we're holding. The rifle has been well received since we introduced it in early Sept, we've already shipped more rifles than Melvin did in his highest production year. Since we only have a limited caliber selection of only right hand now we take this as a very positive sign along with the fact some customers have bought multiple rifles.
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Obviously,the script has fallen into numerous hands through the years and for numerous reasons. As horrible of a job that Colt did on the platform,Ronnie did the EXACT opposite and simply surpassed Mel's BEST fhuqking efforts. That's not a Melvin Slam,but rather a Ronnie Accolade. Hint.
Ronnie did/do understand Mechanics and simply aligned the platform,to shine brightly in ALL avenues. He fhuqking NAILED RPM and throat geometry,better than anyone and everyone,before during or since. Read that again. Now one more time. Hint.
He made receivers outta S/S,D&T'd (5) 8-40's atop same and the end results were/are without peer. To come in behind THE pinnacle and Goat Fhuqk the lineage,is a crying fhuqking shame. The heartbeat of EVERY fhuqking rifle is RPM/Throat Geometry/COAL and to purposely Goat Fhuqk that,blows my mind. Blue Haired Cat Lady Notions,are beyond "peculiar". Hint.
It is plum AMAZING to me,how very little Manufacturers "know" or shoot. Hint............... I don’t see your posts unless I’m logged out and scrolling. This one really intrigued me. If you’re so damn smart and know what good rifle is and should be, why do you remain an Alaskan hillbilly bumpkin instead of starting a gun company and becoming a successful narcissist instead of a plain-ass narcissist? I’m genuinely intrigued, and I have capital on standby to use if you genuinely have the knowledge, skills and initiative to make something happen. I think my capital would be better spent in ammo manufacturing considering the supply chain and geopolitical issues limiting consumer supply; but you have my attention if you have genuine expertise, and not a bunch of empty green ammo boxes with yellow pen paint on them and hand-me-down po’boy rifles. He ain’t wrong. A stainless receiver on a rifle in that price range and intended for hard hunting use should be a given. Do you disagree with what he said about twist, throat geometry, or COAL?
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Obviously,the script has fallen into numerous hands through the years and for numerous reasons. As horrible of a job that Colt did on the platform,Ronnie did the EXACT opposite and simply surpassed Mel's BEST fhuqking efforts. That's not a Melvin Slam,but rather a Ronnie Accolade. Hint.
Ronnie did/do understand Mechanics and simply aligned the platform,to shine brightly in ALL avenues. He fhuqking NAILED RPM and throat geometry,better than anyone and everyone,before during or since. Read that again. Now one more time. Hint.
He made receivers outta S/S,D&T'd (5) 8-40's atop same and the end results were/are without peer. To come in behind THE pinnacle and Goat Fhuqk the lineage,is a crying fhuqking shame. The heartbeat of EVERY fhuqking rifle is RPM/Throat Geometry/COAL and to purposely Goat Fhuqk that,blows my mind. Blue Haired Cat Lady Notions,are beyond "peculiar". Hint.
It is plum AMAZING to me,how very little Manufacturers "know" or shoot. Hint............... I don’t see your posts unless I’m logged out and scrolling. This one really intrigued me. If you’re so damn smart and know what good rifle is and should be, why do you remain an Alaskan hillbilly bumpkin instead of starting a gun company and becoming a successful narcissist instead of a plain-ass narcissist? I’m genuinely intrigued, and I have capital on standby to use if you genuinely have the knowledge, skills and initiative to make something happen. I think my capital would be better spent in ammo manufacturing considering the supply chain and geopolitical issues limiting consumer supply; but you have my attention if you have genuine expertise, and not a bunch of empty green ammo boxes with yellow pen paint on them and hand-me-down po’boy rifles. He ain’t wrong. A stainless receiver on a rifle in that price range and intended for hard hunting use should be a given. Do you disagree with what he said about twist, throat geometry, or COAL? It’s hard to agree or disagree with a guy when he communicates in “Goat Fhuqk HINT!” That’s why I suggested he put his “expertise” to use. The brand matters more, though. That’s Bill’s problem, and he indirectly addressed it with “shipped more rifles than Melvin did in his highest production year.” Fine, but you’re not making the same product which inherently is a different production process with different methods, and still coming on to a forum to defend it, no less. The brand is a the bigger issue in this case.
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Production rifles compete with production rifles. Whatever the flavor of the month.
Truly custom rifles are just that. Special. Individual. Art.
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M1 Garands were hard use rifles and they did not have a stainless steel receiver. Maybe they were a semi hard use rifle. Most important part is proper finish and care of the rifle. You know, don’t use them as fishing gear or just lay them in the river just because you can. NULA rifles have applicable twist and COAL for most typical hunting purposes.
NULA rifles now are just as custom as they were before however, some folks are resistant to change and just need to bitch about something.
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The rifle has been well received since we introduced it in early Sept, we've already shipped more rifles than Melvin did in his highest production year. Since we only have a limited caliber selection of only right hand now we take this as a very positive sign along with the fact some customers have bought multiple rifles. Are these rifles all being purchased by individuals, or are some going to dealers?
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I don’t agree. The Fieldcraft was a custom production rifle, and I’d put one up against any other custom rifle. Form follows function, especially in rifles. I think Bill said a few pages back that they can make these with whatever twist and cartridge they have tooling for. If that is so, then this is a great deal in a custom production rifle. Production rifles compete with production rifles. Whatever the flavor of the month.
Truly custom rifles are just that. Special. Individual. Art.
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M1 Garands were hard use rifles and they did not have a stainless steel receiver. Maybe they were a semi hard use rifle. Most important part is proper finish and care of the rifle. You know, don’t use them as fishing gear or just lay them in the river just because you can. NULA rifles have applicable twist and COAL for most typical hunting purposes.
NULA rifles now are just as custom as they were before however, some folks are resistant to change and just need to bitch about something. Yep, and Melvin would install whatever twist barrel the customer wanted. One in the collection of ULA/NULAs Eileen and I have acquired over the years is a 6.5-284 I bought second-hand, which has a 1-8 twist. No doubt some would prefer a 1-7 twist these days, or even faster, but the Model 20 was built early in 2014, nearly a decade ago, back when most shooters were satisfied with 1-8 in 6.5s.
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NULA rifles now are just as custom as they were before... Incorrect. They are being manufactured in an entirely different process. Economies of scale will dictate to achieve higher production numbers and output. Even Mr. Wilson will agree they are not in any way being produced as Mr. Forbes was producing them. The Wilson NULA is not a bad rifle. It is different in multiple ways.
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I don’t agree. The Fieldcraft was a custom production rifle, and I’d put one up against any other custom rifle. Form follows function, especially in rifles. I think Bill said a few pages back that they can make these with whatever twist and cartridge they have tooling for. If that is so, then this is a great deal in a custom production rifle. Production rifles compete with production rifles. Whatever the flavor of the month.
Truly custom rifles are just that. Special. Individual. Art. The Fieldcraft competed with production rifles in its class and beat them all hands down. That we agree on fully. "Custom production rifle." Interesting.
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The Fieldcraft competed with production rifles in its class and beat them all hands down. That we agree on fully. I call BS on that. Did Mel make his own barrels? Triggers?
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The Fieldcraft competed with production rifles in its class and beat them all hands down. That we agree on fully. I call BS on that. Did Mel make his own barrels? Triggers? What custom rifle builder does?
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NULA rifles now are just as custom as they were before... Incorrect. They are being manufactured in an entirely different process. Economies of scale will dictate to achieve higher production numbers and output. Even Mr. Wilson will agree they are not in any way being produced as Mr. Forbes was producing them. The Wilson NULA is not a bad rifle. It is different in multiple ways. Right, Mel was a one man shop….
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The Fieldcraft competed with production rifles in its class and beat them all hands down. That we agree on fully. I call BS on that. I think the bfc did a lot of things really well. I’m curious what you feel better at $1400?
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The Fieldcraft competed with production rifles in its class and beat them all hands down. That we agree on fully. I call BS on that. I think the bfc did a lot of things really well. I’m curious what you feel better at $1400? Tikka
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NULA rifles now are just as custom as they were before... Incorrect. They are being manufactured in an entirely different process. Economies of scale will dictate to achieve higher production numbers and output. Even Mr. Wilson will agree they are not in any way being produced as Mr. Forbes was producing them. The Wilson NULA is not a bad rifle. It is different in multiple ways. Right, Mel was a one man shop…. No, but he was a 3-4 man shop and he had involvement with every rifle that left the shop.
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The Fieldcraft competed with production rifles in its class and beat them all hands down. That we agree on fully. I call BS on that. I think the bfc did a lot of things really well. I’m curious what you feel better at $1400? Tikka Not even with a Manners.
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The Fieldcraft competed with production rifles in its class and beat them all hands down. That we agree on fully. I call BS on that. I think the bfc did a lot of things really well. I’m curious what you feel better at $1400? Tikka At nearly a pound heavier and antiquated twists.
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The Fieldcraft competed with production rifles in its class and beat them all hands down. That we agree on fully. I call BS on that. Did Mel make his own barrels? Triggers? What custom rifle builder does? Wilson Combat makes their barrels. Point is that most rifles built, custom or not, integrate other company made products into their own. Wilson is no different than Mel.
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If you believe there is no difference between ULA/NULA under Melvin Forbes control and the current Wilson NULA I'm walking away.
Have you ever owned ANY of what we are discussing here? And you think a Tikka surpasses a Barrett?
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