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If you believe there is no difference between ULA/NULA under Melvin Forbes control and the current Wilson NULA our discussion ends now.
Have you ever owned ANY of what we are discussing here? And you think a Tikka surpasses a Barrett? Yes I have. Have you? Mels stocks sucked. Well, if they didn’t fit you then yes. But that is purely subjective. Objectively; they were incredibly well-made, light, and stiff. They fit me, still sucked. So sucked in what way? Surface finish was not to my liking, stock felt cheap, like my ex. I haven't felt you ex.  But I like Mel's stock, the fit and finish, plus they are light weight. Hal
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Marley7x57 needs to gently put the bottle down and slowly step away….
Between him, Bill and Goat Fhuqk HINT! this thread keeps on delivering lol I only post cause you need help BigGrz!  All good, bud. I need all I can get.
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Surface finish was not to my liking, stock felt cheap, like my ex. Sounds like a personal issue.  I prefer the nula finish to the Barrett finish; but I’d throw that into the realm of the subjective. So far everything has been subjective! I think weight and stiffness are both pretty objective - and measurable. Well-made may be a bit more subjective - but I have enough representatives of everything discussed (excepting wcn) to feel pretty comfortable making that call. Without numbers it is meaningless and subjective. Post her weight and I’ll post my nula stock weights. 🤣 I just put my NULA stock (Model 20, short action) on the scale (13" LOP, no action screws but trigger guard included) and it weighs 1lb 9.3 oz (25.3 oz.). FWIW, my Manners UL Classic (same LOP) weighs 17.7 oz.) I sold my Fieldcraft stock, but if memory serves it too was 25-26 oz. For reference, I have a Brown Pounder which I am modifying to fit a Sako S491 repeater and it weighs 1lb, 1.1 oz. (17.4 oz.). It was exactly 18 oz. from the factory but I've hogged out the action area a bit. It does not have a recoil pad. If memory serves, the stock on a Sako Carbonlight in .223 Remington is 20 oz. A Howa Mini carbon fiber stock from Stocky's weighs 16.4 oz.
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Those are all good data points and agree for the most part with my measurements. I would say that is a very heavy ula stock - the ones I have bothered to measure of mine have been at least 2 to 3 ounces lighter.
And I’m still waiting on the weight of Marly’s ex …
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The Fieldcraft is a great rifle but I also like the NULA/ULA/Forbes stocks a lot better. I like the Brown Pounder and Manners UL Classic even better! The Fieldcraft stock (like the NULA, IMHO) has too much meat around the action and barrel channel. They need to skinny it up some and there's no reason these ultralight rifle stocks should weigh more than 20 ounces.
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This is my newly assembled 6mm ARC Howa Mini in a Stocky's Stocks Mini Super Lite stock that weighs right at 20 OZ. With Jefferson Outdoors bottom metal its 5 lbs. 3 oz. Still debating what scope, but leaning towards a SWFA fixed 6x MQ, or an Athlon Helos G2 2-12. Very light and stiff stocks are doable. ![[Linked Image]](https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/gallery/80/full/238778.jpg)
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This is my newly assembled 6mm ARC Howa Mini is a Stocky's Stocks Mini Super Lite stock that weighs right at 20 OZ. With Jefferson Outdoors bottom metal its 5 lbs. 3 oz. Still debating what scope, but leaning towards a SWFA fixed 6x MQ, or an Athlon Helos G2 2-12. Very light and stiff stocks are doable. Great looking set up DW. I like that.
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Moma has one of the first batch out of HOWA with the traditional carbon stock. I like this pattern better.
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I like that stock too David. I wish they would have them at seconds pricing and I’d get another one. Maybe in the next 12-18 months we can get 22 arc barreled actions.
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Kaleb,
I asked them about seconds, and they said “keep an eye out.”
Maybe Black Friday?
I bought mine used on Rokslide.
22 ARC BAs would be nice. I’m looking forward to snagging a 22 ARC barrel for my waiting-to-be-built AR upper.
Hornady claims barrel life in the 4k -5k range for the 6 ARC. I’m not sure they can make a hot 22 that’ll last that long.
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I hope to see a Howa 22 BA or even a mini in carbon. That’ll be fun!
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I like that stock too David. I wish they would have them at seconds pricing and I’d get another one. Maybe in the next 12-18 months we can get 22 arc barreled actions. I bought my last carbon mini from them off eBay. Not sure how often they put stuff on, but they were the seller. And the shipping was a heck of a lot more reasonable. Worth watching. Edit: No mini. They have one 1500 listed. https://www.ebay.com/itm/1347376879...r=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
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I like that stock too David. I wish they would have them at seconds pricing and I’d get another one. Maybe in the next 12-18 months we can get 22 arc barreled actions. I hope we don’t have to wait that long. I’m ready for it now.
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Nice rig DW. Not exactly to my Boomer taste, but I bet it’s nice to shoot.
Probably have to wait a bit for that SS. May as well backorder it at the BF price.
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Curious that the listing is for a “Wilson Combat NULA Semi-Automatic Rifle 6.5 Creedmoor.” Which it ain’t.
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The rifle has been well received since we introduced it in early Sept, we've already shipped more rifles than Melvin did in his highest production year. Since we only have a limited caliber selection of only right hand now we take this as a very positive sign along with the fact some customers have bought multiple rifles. Are these rifles all being purchased by individuals, or are some going to dealers? Mr. Wilson, I wanted to circle back to this question in case it was lost in the noise.
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Curious that the listing is for a “Wilson Combat NULA Semi-Automatic Rifle 6.5 Creedmoor.” Which it ain’t. There are others. https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1019219531
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Damn! I wish that .308 had a 20" barrel, id probly have to buy it...Maybe its a good thing that its not 😁....Hb
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Damn! I wish that .308 had a 20" barrel, id probly have to buy it...Maybe its a good thing that its not 😁....Hb 16 is about perfect
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