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If hunters in the effected states quit buying deer tags and other hunting licenses, States Deer Deputies would feel the crunch. It’s all about the money…

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No. You live in a state run by leftwards and they set your game laws.

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Originally Posted by Jeffrey
No. You live in a state run by leftwards and they set your game laws.
You’re an idiot.

The wolf is under control of the Federal Government and the States have no authority to manage it.

Now go fuqk yourself you ignorant fuqk.


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Originally Posted by viking
If hunters in the effected states quit buying deer tags and other hunting licenses, States Deer Deputies would feel the crunch. It’s all about the money…


That may be what is wanted. Many CO’s I see these days in well pressed uniforms and shiney new trucks seem much more involved handing out tickets at the boat landings on sunny days than trudging thru cold mud and early snows to check deer hunters in the many bush deer camps.

30-40 years ago the Wardens I helped from time to time were a very impressive bunch of do what it takes people. Now a days sitting clean and quiet tagging ATV riders as they pass by seems the mainstay.

My place in the northern remote bush of MN has seen first the decimation of the moose, then the deer herd in the last 30 years with the unchecked rise of the wolf population. My 2 mile long private driveway bridges low areas where moose pictures by the handful were taken, deer were stupid thick. Used to be. The wolves have gotten very good at killing bears as well, but at least bears can climb to safety unlike the ungulates.

It’s sad to see the rise of an uncontrolled apex predator and the damage/change it can cause, sort of a metaphor for other things happening these days?

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But golly gee whiz uff da hotdish doncha know the woofie numbers have stayed exactly the same for years and years.....I agree with Osky, the mndnr has little interest in seeing hunting continue. All by design if you ask me.


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Don’t carry a cell phone or watch and start shooting said wolves with a rifle that will penetrate through and through and leave no ballistic evidence. Make the shot, do not check on said wolf, do no care if it is wounded or dead, and walk the other way quickly. And do not drive anywhere near said wolf in a vehicle made after 1997 or so.

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Originally Posted by viking
If hunters in the effected states quit buying deer tags and other hunting licenses, States Deer Deputies would feel the crunch. It’s all about the money…

There is truth to this but it is also true the end goal is to put a stop to hunting all together. So “they” win no matter what. Maybe a campaign showing how viciously a pack of wolves take down their prey and consume them while they are still alive. But that would take money and organization.

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Originally Posted by steve4102
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No. You live in a state run by leftwards and they set your game laws.
You’re an idiot.

The wolf is under control of the Federal Government and the States have no authority to manage it.

Now go fuqk yourself you ignorant fuqk.

Not exactly smart guy, wolves used to be hunted in MN but the libs are keeping it from happening now, basically Tim Waltz. If what you say is true then why can you hunt them in 3 western states? That’s right, states can manage them.

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Originally Posted by cfran
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No. You live in a state run by leftwards and they set your game laws.
You’re an idiot.

The wolf is under control of the Federal Government and the States have no authority to manage it.

Now go fuqk yourself you ignorant fuqk.

Not exactly smart guy, wolves used to be hunted in MN but the libs are keeping it from happening now, basically Tim Waltz. If what you say is true then why can you hunt them in 3 western states? That’s right, states can manage them.
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Wolves are tough on yarded deer here in the winter. After that the spring comes and wolves go into overtime hunting for the new pups. Moose calves and fawns are pretty easy pickings.
In all fairness bears are very good fawn killers as are our bobcats and remaining coyotes. 4-5 lb newborns are an opening snack tender and juicy.

Without dangers to the pack such as hunting there is not the fear of man there once was. That leaves them able to hunt 24/7 where the daylight hours used to be a time deer could move, feed, then hunker down and be less obvious to the predators. Adding daylight hunting to wolves really brings all senses to bear and gives prey no break. With multiple hungry numbers they are a daunting force.
I’ve heard them here all my life, seen sign. These days the frequency they cross the lake out front here during daylight is remarkable. Nothing seems to phase them any more.

I witnessed a pack of 4 make a kill years ago on a big doe. It was incredible and quick they way it was done. They are proficient to say the least. I’ve heard two kills happening I couldn’t see, another deer once and a cow moose birthing where both cow and calf were killed. They do not often fail nor give up.

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Originally Posted by Nollij
But golly gee whiz uff da hotdish doncha know the woofie numbers have stayed exactly the same for years and years.....I agree with Osky, the mndnr has little interest in seeing hunting continue. All by design if you ask me.


There’s lots of reasons the Mn deer population sucks, wolves being one of them.


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Originally Posted by JoeBob
Don’t carry a cell phone or watch and start shooting said wolves with a rifle that will penetrate through and through and leave no ballistic evidence. Make the shot, do not check on said wolf, do no care if it is wounded or dead, and walk the other way quickly. And do not drive anywhere near said wolf in a vehicle made after 1997 or so.

^^That's how ya do it. One was killed north of Medford Oregon last week. US Fish and Wildlife have no clues to go on so are making offers on tv for a 5,000 dollar reward for rat out info.


Well this is a fine pickle we're in, should'a listened to Joe McCarthy and George Orwell I guess.
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We are going to have to understand wolves for what they actually are today. They are no longer flesh and blood animals to be protected or hunted, or managed. They are atavistic representations of an idealized world without humans raised to near sacred status by anti human cultists. As such, these people react to the killing of a wolf in the same way a religious devotee would react to the desecration of a sacred object. It isn’t rational and they really do care more about the wolves, or at least what they represent, than they do you. They want you gone from the face of the earth.

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This has been the plan of the anti's since long before the wolf introduction. The plan was to use large predators to reduce game animals to the level where hunting would have to be stopped. It didn't work so well in the northern Rockies but it seems to be working in MN. Now they're putting more wolves in CO to thin out the elk.


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There is no reason for a Wolf to exist.

I have seen them destroy the best Mule deer hunting I have seen in a couple years.
It isn't the Wolves that need to disappear.

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LOL? So I’m wrong?

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Originally Posted by JoeBob
Don’t carry a cell phone or watch and start shooting said wolves with a rifle that will penetrate through and through and leave no ballistic evidence. Make the shot, do not check on said wolf, do no care if it is wounded or dead, and walk the other way quickly. And do not drive anywhere near said wolf in a vehicle made after 1997 or so.
Cell phone location or any other location device is not enough evidence to convict you. Your big mouth will though. If questioned, do not lie. Simply say "I am not going to make a statement". Then ask if you are being detained. If they say no then you say "I want you to leave" or if you are not on your property just walk away, get in your truck, and leave.

Once you say you are not going to make a statement, don't.

Your big mouth can certainly convict you and some officers will add their version of what you said.

This is one subject that I know whereof I speak.


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But golly gee whiz uff da hotdish doncha know the woofie numbers have stayed exactly the same for years and years.....I agree with Osky, the mndnr has little interest in seeing hunting continue. All by design if you ask me.


There’s lots of reasons the Mn deer population sucks, wolves being one of them.

Correct, reduction in logging and a few tough winters aren’t helping either.

But these guys that say that it’s only the Feds are wrong, states play a major role in whether or not they can be hunted.

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Originally Posted by 673
There is no reason for a Wolf to exist.

I have seen them destroy the best Mule deer hunting I have seen in a couple years.
It isn't the Wolves that need to disappear.

673;
Top of the morning to you my friend, if you're getting the soggy weather like we are, I hope the fire's burning bright for you all and that you're all well.

We've had wolves here for about a decade now, maybe a couple years more, but this season we were cutting their tracks everywhere. That's both east of us over into the West Kettle and up on the Aberdeen Plateau country too. Crazy amount of wolf tracks in both areas.

Have never seen so few mulies in 40 years and I mean no tracks in fresh snow for miles.

Something moved the elk herd right out of the entire drainage too.

Saw photos of a young fellow I taught CORE to a few years back who took a big one that came into his elk calling back in September.

For the first time ever during the last week of whitetail season I had a wolf howl back to me and then come in. It made a half circle in the timber, but I didn't see it ever.

Unless we get too much snow so we can't get in, we're going to see if we can call again.

Lots of coyotes up there too this year.

I'm not sure we can shoot enough of them to put a dent in their population, but we'll give it a go.

All the best.

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