Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Ask The Gunwriters I will not use a 175 ELD X on game again

Both.

I'd buy a large quantity of them.....

I don't have a dog in the fight as I've only used regular Hdy Interlocks. However, given the Lapua Scenar's reputation as a game bullet, why not run a 7mm 180?

Could be.

He was an outspoken fan of NP's, and the 175 .284 especially. 7mm Marshburn, IIRC.

Regardless of who said that I’ll definitely agree with it. With so many folks enamored with ultra long range shooting and the use of soft, target type bullets there’s gonna be shots on game that do not give the desired results. Since I’m not interested in shooting much over 400yds I can happily use bullets like Noslers, Barnes and other similarly well constructed bullets that will produce the kind of results I want on game like elk.

Well said John.
So many get taken in by people like Dip Stick and the flat brim dude/bro crowd and think they are long range hunters and need the highest BC bullets.
As I pointed out earlier a 175 NP will get you to 750 yds and a 160 AB will get you to 850 yds. both bullets proven to have reliable results on big critters.

I have a bunch of them. Dober ran them and had good results in the Mashburn and they shoot like crazy.. I wouldn't be scared myself.

I am curious about the Scenar. What makes them different than any other jacketed target bullet? I know the 308 , 155 has a huge hollow cavity in the nose... but what holds them together on impact?

Pretty much where I'm at

That was this year's meat hunt, majority of my elk have come off of public land in SD, WY, and CO. Have had tag soup from ID and MT.

Some day I would like to see the inside of that rifle's barrel.

Many posters here are not exactly reliable when discussing real bullet performance but you have a pretty good track record over more than a few years.

It's possible the Target Bergers with the thicker jacket might be a better fit for your rifle if you are wanting to experiment with VLDs a bit more.

Always good to see your opinion, Ted.

my best guess is that you hit something enroute you couldn't see. Odds would be really low to splash a very long 175 at 2600fps.

Gotcha.👍

Target Bergers may very well be my answer….problem is I am way more of a hunter than a shooter and just don’t put enough rounds down range to get a good feel for it all. I am pretty happy with the 135 grain classics, but have 400 139 grain Scenars sitting around for when I run out of the 135s.

Whacked a mountain griz at 200 yards and a bull caribou at about the same this year with the 135s, both going clean through and working just as advertised.

I can assure you the splash I had didn’t impact anything. It was on a doe in a wide open alfalfa field. Alfalfa was ankle high. She was maybe 100 yards at most. She ran about 125 yards to the wood line and stopped to look back before going in. I shot her again. When I gutted her there was only one hole through the rib cage going in and one hole going out. Golf ball size exit. Oddly enough, the first bullet was a disaster and the second worked perfectly as advertised.

It's boring when guys take YES for the answer.

That little bit of loss in BC is going to cost you at 1 mile.

Don't let Big Schtick know you are not using the using the highest BC projectile available. It will throw him into one of his blathering posts, maybe give him a coronary.

Although hitting a branch etc. would be a plausible explanation, I had a solid rest on sticks and the cow was in an open meadow with grass / weeds no higher than my shin, if that. My spotter confirmed before and after the shot (multiple times) that it was perfectly clear.

There was a second hole near the big entrance hole too, but I am assuming that was a tear from her effort to escape and jumping her from her bed 2x. It was about 2 inches long abd 3/4 Inch wide.

The entrance looked like it should have been an exit. I am thankful that she left an easy to follow blood trail, but she just didn't bleed out enough to find her dead. She dropped lots of thick clots too.

I will never hunt big game with those bullets again. What really annoys me is that shot at the cow was the very first time I shot at game with my newly put together 7 PRC and the factory 175 ELD X. I just did not have time to handload before the hunt.

And my son, using my 50 year old 700 '06 cleanly took a cow at 350 yards with a 168 TTSX handload. Same gun and bullet I killed a 339" bull last year.

I'm pretty sure it's magic

But they do seem to work really well...