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With due respect, I’m not sure anyone should be shooting a .30-06 at any game animal past 400 yards? You are joking, right?
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With due respect, I’m not sure anyone should be shooting a .30-06 at any game animal past 400 yards? You are joking, right? Just a opinion, everyone has one.
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Both 145 LRXs, both from this year and the only two I've recovered. Left elk, 433 yards... Right deer, 466 yards. Retained 143.9gr... 144.2gr Expanded to .583"... .575" Impact ~2380 fps... ~2340 fps Those recovered bullets are a fine example of what a big game hunter needs. Weight retention and expansion to about twice the original caliber.
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I am slowly gravitating to LRX and Hammers only for most of my BG rifles.
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I’ve never recovered any, and the deer were right where I shot them.
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I have questions........
It seems Xs thrive on speed. This has been somewhat mitigated with the TTSX and further with the LRX. Yet I see many here using them in much slower and larger bore cartridges such as the 9.3 and 375.
Is there a "line" somewhere with bullet diameter where the nose cavity is made larger to more dependably expand at moderate speed or is it that these cartridges are (typically) used at shorter ranges?
I'd like to come up with a load with either the 168TTSX or 175LRX for my 30-06. Be it known that I'm not interested in shooting at animals much past 400yds. (It is a good thing to know your own limitations and be honest with yourself)
Not an attempt to stir the pot, just honest questions.
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What do you plan on shooting?
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I have questions........
Is there a "line" somewhere with bullet diameter where the nose cavity is made larger to more dependably expand at moderate speed…? Yes, the .338”+ bullets seem to have a larger meplat and opening. If I were you, if I could find a good load with the 175 LRX I’d go with that.
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What do you plan on shooting? My 30-06 is pretty much my "go west" rifle so mule deer and elk. At just past a half century, I'm finally able to do these hunts.
Bore size is no substitute for shot placement and Power is no substitute for bullet performance. 458WIN
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I have questions........
Is there a "line" somewhere with bullet diameter where the nose cavity is made larger to more dependably expand at moderate speed…? Yes, the .338”+ bullets seem to have a larger meplat and opening. If I were you, if I could find a good load with the 175 LRX I’d go with that. I was thinking the same. Might as well get all the advantage you can.
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I have questions........
Is there a "line" somewhere with bullet diameter where the nose cavity is made larger to more dependably expand at moderate speed…? Yes, the .338”+ bullets seem to have a larger meplat and opening. If I were you, if I could find a good load with the 175 LRX I’d go with that. This is where I was leaning. Plan on using the MD prescription of Ramshot Hunter. Seems like an awful good combo.
Bore size is no substitute for shot placement and Power is no substitute for bullet performance. 458WIN
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I have questions........
Is there a "line" somewhere with bullet diameter where the nose cavity is made larger to more dependably expand at moderate speed…? Yes, the .338”+ bullets seem to have a larger meplat and opening. If I were you, if I could find a good load with the 175 LRX I’d go with that. I was thinking the same. Might as well get all the advantage you can. Oh, and I ask about the other two as I have a 9.3X62 I'd like to introduce to a Nilgai and a 375R that may eventually make it after M'bogo. Just curious about the TSX vs TTSX in these. I've read multiple threads with a great deal of firsthand experience and want to put my best foot forward so to speak.
Bore size is no substitute for shot placement and Power is no substitute for bullet performance. 458WIN
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I am slowly gravitating to LRX and Hammers only for most of my BG rifles. You got any 6.5/7mm accubond or ballistic tips you want to get rid of?
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I am slowly gravitating to LRX and Hammers only for most of my BG rifles. You got any 6.5/7mm accubond or ballistic tips you want to get rid of? Not really.
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The bullet on the left weighed 156.9gr, the bullet on the right weighed 154.1gr. Honestly I'm not sure which bullet was shot at 628yds and which one was shot at 614yds. Both bullets were fired from 300wm rifles starting at 3250fps. The Burger app says the bullets should of been over 2000fps at 600yds. They worked but I don't think a 168gr Barnes TTSX is a very good long range elk bullet. Personally I don't think that one bullet can do it all. If you want Barnes and long range I'd go with the LRX.
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Only Barnes I have recovered from game. 130TTSX from 270Win. MV 3070fps cow elk at 310 yards last Monday. Compete failure, she had the temerity to stagger 20 yards before she keeled over.
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My good friend shot them(308) for the 21-22 season. Lost 2 good bucks due to zero expansion and little to no blood trail from shoulder hits. He will NEVER use them again.
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My good friend shot them(308) for the 21-22 season. Lost 2 good bucks due to zero expansion and little to no blood trail from shoulder hits. He will NEVER use them again. This is great stuff. But I gotta ask, how did he know there was zero expansion when he didnt recover the deer?
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Only Barnes I have recovered from game. 130TTSX from 270Win. MV 3070fps cow elk at 310 yards last Monday. Compete failure, she had the temerity to stagger 20 yards before she keeled over. 20 yards? That arrogant b*tch. Lol.. Seriously, though..Where was the shot placed?
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30-06 130 gr TTSX deer 7-08 120 gr TTSX two deer .300 WSM 168 gr TTSX
Only deer that ran was the one shot with the .300 WSM and it only went about 30-40 yards. I believe light for caliber weights are way to go with the TTSX against whitetails.
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