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Well, zealotism is personal... I am not without sin... smile

I've had a dog targetted by wolves, several times . Result was one dead wolf, pelt on wall.

That doesn't mean I'm for the extermination of all wolves. I like wolves- to a point. As I do pits. To a point.

Lighten up. Cetainly I agree pits are of a matter of caution and concern, but I do not agree to outright condemnation of the breed.

Your milage obviously varies. First Amendment.

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"Lighten up," las.

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Filing a wrongful death lawsuit against this brokedick would be total waste of time.

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This is the reported dog owner from the OP. He has been released.



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one time when i was in my early 20's I had 3 roommates out in the county. One of them went wild on booze and pussy, didnt pay rent and would be gone for 5 days at a time. He had 4 hounds and pitbull he used for hog and bear hunting that he wasnt feeding or watering. We were. 4th July came up and we all decided to go to a 3 day rodeo in another town and decided to put his dogs down. So I dispatched them all with a 22 pistol below the ear and dumped them in a pile for the owner to deal with when if he returned while we were gone. 3 days later we got back home and the pitbull was walking around the house half staggering but well alive!! I got a bigger gun! moral of the story is those things are not easy to kil if in attack mode so disable then with hip or shoulder shots before trying for the head. And carry something that holds more than 5 rounds! no J frame for me

Pretty disturbing to shoot innocent animals neglected by a house full of irresponsible kids

Sad to think of a dog wandering around for a day with a bullet in his head. Bad shot.

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San Antonio is a dirty, filthy city.


By the way, in case you missed it, Jeremiah was a bullfrog.
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First Amendment.

Bye.

First Amendment does not absolve an animal owner of criminal behavior by his dogs. Any Pit Bull that comes near me, off leash, is dead on sight. No quarter.


By the way, in case you missed it, Jeremiah was a bullfrog.
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Multi year fatal attacks by breed.

Nothing in the image surprises me. 3 neighbors have aggressive mutts. 1 Pitt, 1 mixed breed Bulldog/Pit and 2 Rotts. Total of 4 dogs. The Pit would frequently come to visit while I was outside and behaved very aggressively. One day the owner followed and was playing with his Pit in my backyard, so I went out and told him of my experience with his mutt, and what consequences loomed. He laffed and flipped me off, at which point I suggested he did not want to let his dog return to visit. He laffed again, never realizing my hand in pocket held a death dispenser. It is certain as sunrise, that if any of those mutts show up on my property they will die.


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Originally Posted by longarm
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This is the reported dog owner from the OP. He has been released..

https://www.ksat.com/news/local/202...n-released-from-jail-court-records-show/

Also, added to the X thread:
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On February 25, 2023, in San Antonio, Texas, an 81-year-old man was killed and a 74-year-old woman critically injured in a dog attack. The incident took place just before 2 p.m. in the 2800 block of Depla Street. The couple, visiting relatives, were attacked by at least two American Staffordshire Terriers after stepping out of a vehicle. The dogs had breached a gate on the property where they were kept. First responders, including a San Antonio Fire Department Captain, were also injured while intervening.

The owner of the dogs, 31-year-old Christian Alexander Moreno, was arrested following the incident. He faces felony charges including Attack by Dangerous Dog Resulting in Death and Injury to an Elderly Person by Omission or Negligence. Three dogs were taken into custody by San Antonio Animal Care Services (SAACS). Two were euthanized on the day of the attack, and the third the following day. These dogs had previously been involved in confirmed bite cases, including one in January of the same year and another in September 2021.

Prior reports indicated that dogs from the same residence had displayed aggressive behavior and were involved in a minor biting incident in 2021. However, they were released due to the lack of an affidavit from a witness. Animal Care Services had also received reports of unleashed and aggressive dogs from this residence over the past two years

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This POS has probably already been released by our Soro's backed DA, Joe Gonzales.

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I've had dogs all of my life. Mostly labs, coonhounds and beagles. I've watched the different ways they all use genetics that are bred into them to do what they were meant to do. Labs and beagles are very noticeable in the way they use their nose to track and find things. You don't "train" that into them. They are born that way. Now what are pits bred for?????????????

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Originally Posted by Jim1611
I've had dogs all of my life. Mostly labs, coonhounds and beagles. I've watched the different ways they all use genetics that are bred into them to do what they were meant to do. Labs and beagles are very noticeable in the way they use their nose to track and find things. You don't "train" that into them. They are born that way. Now what are pits bred for?????????????
Pift Bulls were bred to fight other dogs, to lay their lives down in combat to please their master. Dogs that showed aggression towards humans were culled. This resulted in a dog that that is extremely devoted to it's master and very trainable and obedient.

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i read in Exodus this morning of some of the Mosaic laws coming down from Mount Sinai. One of them dealt with unruly oxen known to gore people, yet were still kept by the owners. the law was/is this: if an oxen known by the public to gore, but is not killed by the owner, and gores and/or kills someone, then the ox - and the owner - are put to death. this seems a practical approach to the pitfall problem ...


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Originally Posted by Moto_Vita
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I've had dogs all of my life. Mostly labs, coonhounds and beagles. I've watched the different ways they all use genetics that are bred into them to do what they were meant to do. Labs and beagles are very noticeable in the way they use their nose to track and find things. You don't "train" that into them. They are born that way. Now what are pits bred for?????????????
Pift Bulls were bred to fight other dogs, to lay their lives down in combat to please their master. Dogs that showed aggression towards humans were culled. This resulted in a dog that that is extremely devoted to it's master and very trainable and obedient.

Except … when it isn’t.

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Originally Posted by Moto_Vita
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I've had dogs all of my life. Mostly labs, coonhounds and beagles. I've watched the different ways they all use genetics that are bred into them to do what they were meant to do. Labs and beagles are very noticeable in the way they use their nose to track and find things. You don't "train" that into them. They are born that way. Now what are pits bred for?????????????
Pift Bulls were bred to fight other dogs, to lay their lives down in combat to please their master. Dogs that showed aggression towards humans were culled. This resulted in a dog that that is extremely devoted to it's master and very trainable and obedient.

Just when did this culling end?

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Only my Opinion
Most dogs are a reflection of their owners
Bad Dog
Bad Owner

Their are exceptions some times
But most of the time this is the way it is.

I had a boss years back that had a Pit Bull
I went to his house to pick up some tools for a job.

He warned me about his Pit

And told me that when he rolled over on his back be prepared to get peed on if I rubbed his belly

I told hm that he did not have a Pot Bull he had a Stafford-er Terrier (or how ever you spell it).

Stafford-er Terriers are good well behaved dogs

Pit Bulls are nasty pieces of crap dogs Raised by nasty pieces of crap owners.

2 different breads.

Again this is just my opinion.

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Originally Posted by Jim1611
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I've had dogs all of my life. Mostly labs, coonhounds and beagles. I've watched the different ways they all use genetics that are bred into them to do what they were meant to do. Labs and beagles are very noticeable in the way they use their nose to track and find things. You don't "train" that into them. They are born that way. Now what are pits bred for?????????????
Pift Bulls were bred to fight other dogs, to lay their lives down in combat to please their master. Dogs that showed aggression towards humans were culled. This resulted in a dog that that is extremely devoted to it's master and very trainable and obedient.

Just when did this culling end?
Most likely it hasn't ended in instances where dogs are still bred for fighting, which fortunately isn't common anymore.

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Originally Posted by funshooter
Only my Opinion
Most dogs are a reflection of their owners
Bad Dog
Bad Owner

Their are exceptions some times
But most of the time this is the way it is.

I had a boss years back that had a Pit Bull
I went to his house to pick up some tools for a job.

He warned me about his Pit

And told me that when he rolled over on his back be prepared to get peed on if I rubbed his belly

I told hm that he did not have a Pot Bull he had a Stafford-er Terrier (or how ever you spell it).

Stafford-er Terriers are good well behaved dogs

Pit Bulls are nasty pieces of crap dogs Raised by nasty pieces of crap owners.

2 different breads.

Again this is just my opinion.

Staffordshire terrier, after a place in England, a pit bull bred for a calm and non-aggressive temperament. Most pit bulls around here tho are bred in backyards and if selected for anything at all it’s prob’ly aggression. Not much is asked of most other than to be a deterrent in the yard.

700,000 households in Bexar County (where San Antonio is), an estimated, ballparking from 2006 estimates that’s around 300,000 dogs (conservative estimate). I would guess one in five is a pit but I’m gonna be conservative again and ballpark one in ten.

Hence an estimated 30,000 pit bulls. Two dead people and one amputation this year by pit bulls all from two dogs in concert so about one in 5,000 pit bulls involved.

OTOH 3,000 dog bites each year reported in Bexar County, I have no idea how many involved pits. But if we conservatively assume one in ten that would be around one per 100 pit bulls, sounds reasonable.

So obviously MOST pits don’t attack people, but when they do the consequences can be severe.

Personally, I don’t need a scary dog for protection, I just need one that barks, one of them never mind the dog beware the owner deals. I’m always armed at home.


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Clarkm: Take it from someone who has investigated "pit bull" attacks on humans (both big and small humans!) they (pit bulls) should all be neutered and none allowed importation into this country ever again.
Problems (deaths/mutilations/disfigurements) by pit bulls over, in a few years.
There are many dozens of gentle, loving, dedicated and non-lethal dog breeds to love and care for.
Pit bulls should be eradicated one way or another - they are just NOT "worth" the dangers they present.
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Originally Posted by VarmintGuy
Clarkm: Take it from someone who has investigated "pit bull" attacks on humans (both big and small humans!) they (pit bulls) should all be neutered and none allowed importation into this country ever again.
Problems (deaths/mutilations/disfigurements) by pit bulls over, in a few years.
There are many dozens of gentle, loving, dedicated and non-lethal dog breeds to love and care for.
Pit bulls should be eradicated one way or another - they are just NOT "worth" the dangers they present.
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OK Doglover, then what do you do with the next breed that gets adopted and poorly bred by irresponsible people who want to have mean, tough, dogs? And then the one after that...

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Originally Posted by fish30ought6
i read in Exodus this morning of some of the Mosaic laws coming down from Mount Sinai. One of them dealt with unruly oxen known to gore people, yet were still kept by the owners. the law was/is this: if an oxen known by the public to gore, but is not killed by the owner, and gores and/or kills someone, then the ox - and the owner - are put to death. this seems a practical approach to the pitfall problem ...

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