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I took my 2021 Grand Cherokee SRT in for one last computer flash update before the warranty expires and I have to start paying for it. We have an older 2018 GC Overland that is reaching 80,000 miles so I was interested in seeing what Jeep has to offer. The salesdude was quick to point out the GC Hybrid which resulted in a quick no way that's happening. So the only engine option for 2024 moving forward is the Pentastar 6 and again, that ain't happening either. Chrysler/Fiat is phasing out V-8s and moving towards twin turbos (EcoBoost) and EVs.
Once SRT was finished with its software updates I stopped by the BMW place. There is an X3 M40i calling my name.
Done with Jeep.
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Better pack your bags then.
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They're all phasing out V8s. You couldn't give me an electric/hybrid.
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Bob is amlost done with the 47 willies, I will make hime a nice 8x10 when finished
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The Big 3, and Toyota, had finally all developed gas V-8’s perfectly capable of making it to 250,000 miles, and most (not Toyota), capable of getting close to 20mpg in a full-size pu.
Obviously, we can’t have that, so now we’re gonna get a bunch of complicated 4 and 6 cyl turbos that conveniently start falling apart after 150k…….
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The Big 3, and Toyota, had finally all developed gas V-8’s perfectly capable of making it to 250,000 miles, and most (not Toyota), capable of getting close to 20mpg in a full-size pu.
Obviously, we can’t have that, so now we’re gonna get a bunch of complicated 4 and 6 cyl turbos that conveniently start falling apart after 150k……. You nailed it!
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I gave up on Jeep after owning one Cherokee in the 90s. Long story not worth sharing.
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Jeep = Heap (of junk)
You couldn't give me one
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lol, never trumper leaves Jeep for BMW
Did you check with your boyfriend first?
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BMW, Big Money Wasted. No BMW is designed for longevity, in fact I have read that 100,00 kilometers is there design goal with good performance the priority. During that 100,000 kilometers you will pay a premium for routine maintenance and an extreme premium for any repairs.
One of the few vehicles less reliable than a Jeep.
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The Big 3, and Toyota, had finally all developed gas V-8’s perfectly capable of making it to 250,000 miles, and most (not Toyota), capable of getting close to 20mpg in a full-size pu.
Obviously, we can’t have that, so now we’re gonna get a bunch of complicated 4 and 6 cyl turbos that conveniently start falling apart after 150k……. Yep the EPA has created the perfect storm - establish mandates that engineers cannot meet without designing engines that basically eat themselves after 100,000 miles. Piston rings with zero tension, turbos pushing combustion byproducts and water into the crankcase, PCV systems recirculating all that mess back into the engine. No point in designing turbos to outlast engines so make sure they fail about the same time. And then for $hits and giggles program engines to auto stop so that the starter, battery, engine, and turbos experience even more wear. Meanwhile, Africa (and virtually all other third world countries) has a few hundred million diesel engines burning the filthiest fuel in vehicles without a DPF and associated bull$hit. None of this make any sense.
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BMW, Big Money Wasted. No BMW is designed for longevity, in fact I have read that 100,00 kilometers is there design goal with good performance the priority. During that 100,000 kilometers you will pay a premium for routine maintenance and an extreme premium for any repairs.
One of the few vehicles less reliable than a Jeep. Probably, but their warranty and free service for four years is hard to pass on.
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Kaiser Willis Jeep…….
The rest been downhill!
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BMW, Big Money Wasted. No BMW is designed for longevity, in fact I have read that 100,00 kilometers is there design goal with good performance the priority. During that 100,000 kilometers you will pay a premium for routine maintenance and an extreme premium for any repairs.
One of the few vehicles less reliable than a Jeep. Probably, but their warranty and free service for four years is hard to pass on. Move to Germany and buy one there.
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CJ, XJ and ZJ, avg 200K.
Biggest issue Ive seen is rust.
The ZJs did have some electronic glitch, related to anti theft.
Lots of shops dunno how to fix that. My local guy sharp, put a reset switch in my glove box for $150.
Only needed it a few times, but dang if it didn't work.
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I gave up on Jeep after owning one Cherokee in the 90s. Long story not worth sharing. I'm in the same boat--except mine was a CJ 5
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I took my 2021 Grand Cherokee SRT in for one last computer flash update before the warranty expires and I have to start paying for it. We have an older 2018 GC Overland that is reaching 80,000 miles so I was interested in seeing what Jeep has to offer. The salesdude was quick to point out the GC Hybrid which resulted in a quick no way that's happening. So the only engine option for 2024 moving forward is the Pentastar 6 and again, that ain't happening either. Chrysler/Fiat is phasing out V-8s and moving towards twin turbos (EcoBoost) and EVs.
Once SRT was finished with its software updates I stopped by the BMW place. There is an X3 M40i calling my name.
Done with Jeep. Going from a Jeep to a BMW? You must not value your money the same as I do. They are both money pits, but BMW is the king of money pits.
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I took my 2021 Grand Cherokee SRT in for one last computer flash update before the warranty expires and I have to start paying for it. We have an older 2018 GC Overland that is reaching 80,000 miles so I was interested in seeing what Jeep has to offer. The salesdude was quick to point out the GC Hybrid which resulted in a quick no way that's happening. So the only engine option for 2024 moving forward is the Pentastar 6 and again, that ain't happening either. Chrysler/Fiat is phasing out V-8s and moving towards twin turbos (EcoBoost) and EVs.
Once SRT was finished with its software updates I stopped by the BMW place. There is an X3 M40i calling my name.
Done with Jeep. WTF Took you so long.
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