Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire This is why I carry a gun I can fight with.

The gymnastics of trying to reload a single-action revolver in a gunfight with only one working arm/hand would have to resemble a monkey f'ing a football.

I think he should post a picture in tights just to be sure, I bet he could pull it off!

Phil is an expert on monkey fugking

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We agree!

I bought this:

https://www.sigsauer.com/p226-zev-9mm-slide-assembly-romeo1-pro-black.html

It has proven reliable over three years

Including a 3 day 2,000 round class at ThunderRanch Oregon.

This thread has been highly entertaining with all the spouting off of the "Know Nothings".

I don't know Mackay all that well but with the discussions and correspondence we've had I know that Mackay is a man that knows what he's talking about when it comes to self defense, I also know he's shot more rounds in the last 4 years than 99.9% of the good folks here have shot in there lifetimes including myself and I have shot a lot in my life. I now shoot 2000 to 3000 rounds a year just for practice, I wish I had time for more.

Fact of the matter is Mackay has more experience in most things gun than most here have had licking windows so if Mackay makes a suggestion I strongly suggest to take it to heart and and study it, I know I will and do.

Just my 2 cents, no fuqking refunds either!

Sam??

Thank you for the Kudos my Friend.

Sometimes there are lessons in life that we can learn through the unfortunate experiences of others, including tragedies.

Back in the 80’s I felt comfortable with a J frame snubby and a 5 shot speed loader for EDC. Once the street urchins started carrying high capacity autos, I changed my tactics. I now carry a minimum 9 shot 9mm auto pistol with at least one spare. I carry a pocket flashlight, and a knife also. Once you get used to carrying these things, you feel naked without them.

Ron

The example I posted the day before yesterday of the guy who was involved in a shooting on Christmas eve is a solid example of why a J Frame may really not be up to the task these days. He faced several armed robbery suspects, and they tried to kill him anyways even after he complied with their wishes. His combined tactics as well as skill at arms with a G19 is likely what prevented him from being a dead victim.

Today I am carrying my G22 .40 with some hot 170 grain loads, a spare mag, and my 20+ year old Emerson folder.

Just took a cruise in the Glock 22 section on GB, used 22's I might add. Looking like a person could get a decent M22 for a tic over 300 bucks OTD. Just a thought, considering the name of this thread plus the SHTF thread.

Folks may or may not agree on the Short & Weak term, but unaware of any 9 that can match the energy of several good 40 loads. Also remembering what ammo was available during the last shortage. The 40 may not be tre chic anymore, but still a damn good gun for fighting with IMO.

MS:
Intrigued by the magazine pouches you use. Looks like they would be a perfect low profile pocket-carry way to have your magazine clean and free of pocket lint or other debris.

Have looked for something like them in various mail order places but have seen none.

Are they homemade?

What is neat is now we have a sig XMacro, smaller than a G19, easier for many to shoot better than a G19, and holds 17 rounds.

No 9mm load out there is going to match a 170 grain at 1200 FPS.

Nope,

The are by Blue Force Gear.

10-Speed pouches. I use them on my belt, in my pocket, as well as attached to my HPG Kit bag. They make them for M4 mags as well.

I'm sure that's true as far as energy figures are concerned. But will the average dirtbag be able to discern the difference between a .40 caliber hardcast bullet fully penetrating his body and a .356 caliber hardcast bullet doing the same?

Many people want a gun/tool that is up to multiple tasks, not a one trick pony. People want a gun that they can use both for in town, as well as animal/large animal defense, trail defense, etc. My experience has shown that there are quite few people who have tried larger frame 10mm/.45 sized guns and never really got comfortable shooting them, or were nearly as proficient shooting them, as compared to shooting a smaller, standard frame that they could get a better grip on.

When actually tested against a timer, the results showed significant performance degradation with the larger frames for the majority of people who were not very dedicated shooters and shot the larger framed guns frequently.

The goal of the +P 40 project was to develop a highly accurate .40 load that could be handled by the majority of people, even those with small to medium size hands. It took over a year and over 2,000 rounds of various projectiles to determine what was the right projectile to deliver the exceptional accuracy at top speed that would be extremely reliable in your typical modern service auto.

The result ended up being better than expected and outperformed some big name factory 10mm loads when it came to actual chronograph testing. It ended up being a load that I would have zero issue carrying in big bear/predator country. Plus you can actually shoot it rapidly and get good hits.

The accuracy speaks for itself:











I have carried the G22 .40 a lot over the last year, simply for the fact that the gun/ammo combo is so accurate, I feel confident in the ability it gives me make difficult shots.

McKay what generation of G22 do you have to get to avoid bulged brass like the originals?..mb

The gun shown is a Gen 3 with a totally stock barrel and I have zero issues. I DO NOT recommend using a Gen 2.



If I was buying a Glock today, I would go with a Gen 5 and not look back. Every one of the Gen 5 guns I have handled, inspected has been very tight and displayed good to great accuracy.

Please correct me if I'm wrong. But, isn't a G22 about the size of a G17?