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Originally Posted by ingwe
Originally Posted by garddogg56
If you think Jeeps and BMW are bad try Volvo ,just went for a state inspection only 45k miles on her need to replace a broken coil spring,timing belt+ tension pulley,bushings and brakes all four $5200.00
I WILL STICK WITH MY FORDS

Let me see if I'm getting this...

the STATE tells you when you have to get car repairs?
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The new jeep inline 6 has plasma deposited liners on the aluminum block. No iron sleeves. I hope they hold up better than a chevy Vega. Ford went the same route on their coyote v8 claiming it save 8 pounds of weight. I'd still prefer the iron liners and live with the extra 8 pounds. I'm sure it just saves them some money and builds in more obsolescence.

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I gave up on Jeep after owning one Cherokee in the 90s. Long story not worth sharing.


I'm in the same boat--except mine was a CJ 5



SAME on a Cherokee. Last POS I'll ever buy from Jeep.

Same here after a couple of Wranglers - wife had a thing for soft top jeeps.......both were full of rattles and squeaks and burning oil before 80k - and I am meticulous about regular maintenance, mostly highway miles and nothing coming close to real off road use. Unfortunately, my experience has been similar with most domestic vehicles I have owned over the years with the exception of a Ford Super Duty F250 - that sumbitch was going strong at 275k when I sold it. I've been driving Tacoma's for the last 17 years and the most significant repair has been wheel bearings at very high miles and a belt tensioner arm.

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We have a 25 year old TJ and like it just fine. It hauls fishing gear and camping gear and the dog likes it. GD
Yep, I had one for 20 years with no serious problems. Broke a few things rock crawling but that’s to be expected. No electrical or power train issues. That 4.0 six is a great motor.


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Just replaced a 4.0 inline 6 in a 1993 sierra with 340,000 ranch miles on it hell of a motor, like i said before we don't drive Jeeps on the hi-way once we bring a Jeep on the ranch we don't license or insure them, if you expect a Jeep to be a car it will probably be a disappointment, they don't make the best hi-way cars. Rio7

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My daughter went to buy a new vehicle in 2015. She asked me which one to buy, 4Runner or Jeep? I told her to stay away from the Jeep at all cost. Fast forward to today. Her daily driver is a 2020 4Runner. The 2015 Jeep is basically a driveway ornament. She simply drives the Toyota and wishes she had the money to fix, yet again, the Jeep.

She moved to Morgan, UT where the Jeep is a toy for short trips into the mountains, but that's all. Dependable and Jeep are never spoken in the same sentence.

She asked me last week what I would do to fix the Jeep. I told her I would pull the junky motor out and replace it with either a 4.8 LS or old school 350 with fuel injection.


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Originally Posted by garddogg56
If you think Jeeps and BMW are bad try Volvo ,just went for a state inspection only 45k miles on her need to replace a broken coil spring,timing belt+ tension pulley,bushings and brakes all four $5200.00
I WILL STICK WITH MY FORDS

I see people buy new Volvos left and right, sounds like the Dealer charged you at least double if not more for that work. Hopefully you disposed of it ASAP.

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Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by ingwe
Originally Posted by garddogg56
If you think Jeeps and BMW are bad try Volvo ,just went for a state inspection only 45k miles on her need to replace a broken coil spring,timing belt+ tension pulley,bushings and brakes all four $5200.00
I WILL STICK WITH MY FORDS

Let me see if I'm getting this...

the STATE tells you when you have to get car repairs?
Poobah,

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Jesus...add this to the list of why you are NOT living in a free country.


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I find it odd a state inspection would cover timing belt and that it needs changing at 45k.

State inspection is usually safety items and/or emissions.

How do you break a coil spring in 45k on a passenger car as well? That's not a common repair much less within 45k miles.


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Originally Posted by Teal
I find it odd a state inspection would cover timing belt and that it needs changing at 45k.

State inspection is usually safety items and/or emissions.

How do you break a coil spring in 45k on a passenger car as well? That's not a common repair much less within 45k miles.

I would have thought so too, most likely a timing issue which threw the emissions tester the nazis use to hell. Coil spring maybe they used biodegradable coil springs to save the environment.


It was nice to live in Florida with no state inspection.

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Originally Posted by ingwe
Originally Posted by garddogg56
If you think Jeeps and BMW are bad try Volvo ,just went for a state inspection only 45k miles on her need to replace a broken coil spring,timing belt+ tension pulley,bushings and brakes all four $5200.00
I WILL STICK WITH MY FORDS

Let me see if I'm getting this...

the STATE tells you when you have to get car repairs?
My Mom gave me the car after the state took my 90 yo fathers license away.It is ten years old but only 45k on the odometer.I took it for the state inspection and never thought it would fail breaks felt great ,apparently Volvo requires the belt be changed at 10 yo..me and my buddies put her in the garage ,the brakes and disk have surface rust from sitting but plenty of meat,the bushings seem ok .I have to research the timing belt but what a mother to get to.
So in Maine you have to pass a state inspection every year,NEVER go to a dealership for this EVER...
PS we can't find the broken coil spring,I'm going to pay an hours Labor to the dealership to show me where the break is😡

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