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So,
As per my last thread, I've been deciding on a stock for my M70 build. Have received confirmation from Brown precision that they can ship a stock to Australia - great news. Frustratingly, I've just sent another email to Bansner asking if postage is possible after waiting over two weeks since my first email.
How do the stocks compare? I was hoping to obtain the Bansner Miller as I love a cheekpiece, but at this rate think the Brown stock will be the winner. Also, is this sort of delay in response normal this time of year due to holiday closures, or no?
Photos appreciated as always to help me decide. Thank you!
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What is the price difference these days? I'm sure Brown is pretty expensive, while the Bansner has always been much less in price. Been hearing some good things about the Bansner miller stocks though. It does seem strange that they are not returning your emails. That would be concerning to me. I can only tell you my experience, having had a couple Brown Precision PoundR rifle stocks (still have them), and having a Bansner. I did not like the Bansner at all. It was lightweight and stiff, but it was more of a pain fitting to my rifle action, than any Brown was. It also did not balance well. Just did not like the feel of it. It was light, but felt clubby and fat. There was no comparison. Love the Brown PoundR stocks. Hopefully the new Bansners are better than the old ones.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Thanks for the input BSA. The brown is about $150 USD more before shipping, so about $220 Australian.
Edited to add that price is with graphite added, however not a poundR which would be an extra $359 as per the price list on the website.
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I have emailed bansner multiple times and never gotten a response. I think you need to phone the shop.
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I was debating between Bansner and McMillan but when I compared prices on drop in ready they were pretty much the same so I went with McMillan and had it done in a month. Got Hunters Edge I believe 23 oz, beautiful and great handling stock.
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I have had a Bansner stock and loved it, left handed, different strokes for different folks I suppose, (but I would never debate BSA as I enjoy his input on all subjects) That was a long while ago, before High Tech Stocks. A close friend loved it and we worked out a deal, it’s still his go-to. Having said all that I will talk w Mark Bansner at the Dallas Safari Club Convention next weekend and mention their slow/lack of email responses, diplomatically of course
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I have had a Bansner stock and loved it, left handed, different strokes for different folks I suppose, (but I would never debate BSA as I enjoy his input on all subjects) That was a long while ago, before High Tech Stocks. A close friend loved it and we worked out a deal, it’s still his go-to. Having said all that I will talk w Mark Bansner at the Dallas Safari Club Convention next weekend and mention their slow/lack of email responses, diplomatically of course No debate here Crockett. I'm just relaying my experience with the older Bansner stocks. Some guys love them. Guys like Brad here. A lot depends on your face structure, and body type when it comes to stock fit. I like the looks of the new ones. I just hope they fit the actions better. The sad thing is, these days, we are limited in our choices. Mcmillan doesn't want to fully inlet some stocks anymore, so that may leave us to buying used, or trying out new companies stocks. I love my used Brown Precision PoundR stocks, but I would not pay new prices for one. I hope more guys buy the Bansner Miller stocks and report how they are. I'm sure tests will prove positive on these ones. If you end up talking to Mark, please let us know how that goes.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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So,
As per my last thread, I've been deciding on a stock for my M70 build. Have received confirmation from Brown precision that they can ship a stock to Australia - great news. Frustratingly, I've just sent another email to Bansner asking if postage is possible after waiting over two weeks since my first email.
How do the stocks compare? I was hoping to obtain the Bansner Miller as I love a cheekpiece, but at this rate think the Brown stock will be the winner. Also, is this sort of delay in response normal this time of year due to holiday closures, or no?
Photos appreciated as always to help me decide. Thank you! Well, since no one else is posting a photo, here are my twin pre 64 model 70's in Brown PoundR stocks: 338wm on top, and the 300WBY on the bottom. Both rifles weigh in at 8 pounds on the nose, as shown in the pic. Both also hold 4 in the mag box, due to the rifles being built on H&H receivers. These rifles balance very well, feel great in the hand, when out in the field, and also mitigate recoil very well. Hopefully someone will also post pics of their model 70's in the new Bansner Miller stock. Those are actually nice looking stocks, from what I've seen of them. Wondering if guys like AKWolverine here, has one they can post a pic of??
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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BSA, (and of course anyone else’s) what are your thoughts on HS Precision replacement stocks?
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My opinion and it's not condemning of them, but they feel clubby to me, but I have large hands and don't like the way the pistol grip feels. They are of good quality as far as the ones I have used and shot.
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A few good stockmakers out there, but I much prefer the Brown. Communication and service is great and I don't think you can beat their quality. The extra $150 will be forgotten soon.
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What stock makers are drop in ready vs inletting required?
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I've had Brown, Bansner and McMillan. At the end of the day they are pretty close. McMillan costs more but are generally drop in and bolt on ready to go. The others will need some final fitting and finishing. If you're skilled enough to do the work you can save some money. If you pay a gunsmith to fit the stock, you don't save much if anything over McMillan.
Also, the weights listed for Bansner do not include a recoil pad. Maybe not on Brown, it been a long time and I don't remember. By the time you add a recoil pad the finished weight will be 4-6 ounces more than listed. McMillan's listed weights include a pad.
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Figure 22 to 24 ounces for pounder; 26 to 28 ounces for a non-pounder (with pads). Bansner Miller will be 24 to 26 ounces with pad. Classic and sheephunter slightly less. Less for everything if you go with a flip-flop or a Cervelatti.
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So, Mark has replied to my emails, was apologetic due to the delay (due to holiday period) and has been very helpful and professional, no complaints from me.
BSA, that's for the photo, couple of nice looking rifles. How do they balance given that the stocks are so light, and they are "full sized" rifles as such?
Thanks all
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myself,bansners are my only stock i use for rem clones,miller style my favorite,own several.my winchesters sit in echols stocks.
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So, Mark has replied to my emails, was apologetic due to the delay (due to holiday period) and has been very helpful and professional, no complaints from me.
BSA, that's for the photo, couple of nice looking rifles. How do they balance given that the stocks are so light, and they are "full sized" rifles as such?
Thanks all Figured it was something to do with holidays. Everybody needs a break I guess. I know from a few folks that shoot his Miller pattern is pretty darned good. I have a couple I’d like to get ordered.
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BSA, (and of course anyone else’s) what are your thoughts on HS Precision replacement stocks? I bought one thinking it would be an upgrade from my last B and C (which has been great if truth be told). The HS felt more substantial and was a little heavier. The recoil, however, was much harsher with the HS and the standard recoil pad is just awful. When I phoned the guys at Redhawk to place my order they called it a Magnum pad and the guy next to him joked that it was because it made every rifle feel like a magnum. the Pad is glued on and not easy to remove but you could pay an upcharge for a Pachmyer when ordering. Overall I am happier with the B and C that came with a Pachmyer. It made a noticeable improvement in recoil over the factory synthetic and solved the consistency issue of the rifle. I sold the HS and went back to walnut on that rifle and am happier.
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Figure 22 to 24 ounces for pounder; 26 to 28 ounces for a non-pounder (with pads). Bansner Miller will be 24 to 26 ounces with pad. Classic and sheephunter slightly less. Less for everything if you go with a flip-flop or a Cervelatti. Don't you have a new Bansner? I thought you posted pics of a rough one about 8 months ago. Still waiting to see the finished product. That would be great info in a thread like this.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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So, Mark has replied to my emails, was apologetic due to the delay (due to holiday period) and has been very helpful and professional, no complaints from me.
BSA, that's for the photo, couple of nice looking rifles. How do they balance given that the stocks are so light, and they are "full sized" rifles as such?
Thanks all Both rifles balance exceptionally well, and carry great in the field. I have no complaints with them. I still hunt, and have rifle in hand 99% of the time when I'm elk hunting. If they did not balance well, I generally get rid of them. Such is what I did with the Bansner I had on a similar style model 70: I sure hope the new ones are better than the old. As for the HS Precision stocks, I only have one, but it's not on a "hunting" rifle. It's a heavy barreled rifle that feels great shooting from the bench and off of a bi-pod. I actually really like that stock, as it's very comfortable, but like i say, it's not a hunting rifle stock:
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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