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10lb 30-28 with pack on my back hunting the Rocky Mountains alot of times climbing 1500-2000' vertical feet no trails either.
I guess some can and some can't.
One place I hunt the road is 3700' and hunt alot at 6000' 6200' straight up from the truck.
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Don't build or buy a short mag.
They offer nothing over a standard 7 rem. Having spent considerable time with both 7WSM and 7RM, I’ll disagree with you there. Well, different strokes for different folks. What does it offer that a 7 RM don't. I guess you can use a short action? Feeding problems? Not as much powder capacity? It beats a 7 mag in now way shape or form when handloaded and used for long range hunting. With an 8 twist barrel and proper throat nothing really is better than the 7 Rem Mag for a hunting rifle with lots of reach. The rifle really is not a 7mm RM anymore if it is not to SAAMI spec but the 7WSM is hamstrung even more by it's SAMMI specs. Behold ...
What a REAL Long Range Hunting cartridge looks like and what it can do .... do the math .... if'vn you can count What does your 375 Mercenary and your 338 Skuldryl weigh with your scope? I weighed the 338 Skuldryl with scope and a full 5 round mag of ammo before but can't give you the exact weight right now, it has a #5 contour 26" Rock Creek bbl set in a Manners stock, probably 8-10 lbs loaded, LOL. Nothing with a #5 26 inch barrel is getting anywhere near 8# loaded. Unless you leave to scope off and saw the stock in half. You really love to polish bullets and cases. It's a tell on your deviant fetishes. It really is a tell. LMAO! You finally checked out what I do for a hobby and the only thing you could come up with is "polish bullets and cases" lol !
Ya, I've always hated pics that don't display a product properly, like they are trying to hide something .... Like what you do with the garbage you try to sell to people that don't know any better
The realization that what you have done with your worthless products that don't work as you claim, false advertisement and all, & still can't come remotely close to what I've developed ..
Keep trying Burnstein, one day you might actually design something that may work as you claim and make an honest dollar, but I doubt it, you are all about ripping people off by selling junk that does't work, It's too bad your presence is making Wyo Arms lose so many potential customers & revenue, they really need to cut ties with you in order to make any form of profit
As for long range hunting ? You ain't got a clue what that really means.... The cartridges you use to shoot at animals antlers at 600 yards are what we call mid range... and you still fkn missed the intended target, lol
Now that is telling ![[Linked Image from external-content.duckduckgo.com]](https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia2.giphy.com%2Fmedia%2FBOMBumnGk0l7W%2Fgiphy.gif&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=8b935fe7d57c7dfbf5400a2c8a07af7140be8ee5f555c67e9f7b946d81441172.gif) Never done anything Internet Rando hiding behind a screen name.
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Interesting discussion. Cool to see all the different stuff that works for people. I was messing with my made in 1958 338 today with 250 Scenars. RL26 and it seem to be getting along decent. ![[Linked Image from hosting.photobucket.com]](https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/ww233/beretzs/IMG_0432.jpeg) It should hit stuff pretty well. Maybe not needed but it’s in the locker and hasn’t hunted in a couple years…. ![[Linked Image from hosting.photobucket.com]](https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/ww233/beretzs/IMG_0330_wXwyAYHaqChynLeYaCkxFu.jpeg)
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Nice looking rig there Scotty.
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Interesting discussion. Cool to see all the different stuff that works for people. I was messing with my made in 1958 338 today with 250 Scenars. RL26 and it seem to be getting along decent. It should hit stuff pretty well. Maybe not needed but it’s in the locker and hasn’t hunted in a couple years…. Hitting staples at 100yds (assuming) should work! Nice group.
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That doesn't have near the juice of the 338 Skullfuck.
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Don't forget the 416 Hamsplitter. Just saw a picture of the 416 Hamsplitter in Warren Page's The Accurate Rifle. The ultimate elk rifle apparently: ![[Linked Image]](https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/gallery/80/full/244052.jpg)
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That doesn't have near the juice of the 338 Skullfuck. It’s for my wife and daughter to use 
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Nice looking rig there Scotty. Thanks Brad. That was old faithful before Bob got me into my first Mashburn…. Still is a good old rifle. Fun to bring the old rifles into modern times with the great bullets and powders we have now.
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Given that Lapua just announced new .300 WSM brass, I’d likely build another 7WSM and use Lapua to form cases via a false shoulder. A 7WSM launching the 180 ELD at 2900+ fps from Lapua cases sounds pretty good. Just out of curiosity what drew you the 7wsm vs saum and I’m assuming prc wasn’t available at the time? Nothing wrong with the SAUM, but I wanted to be able to push 180s at 2900+ fps without redlining peak pressure. The PRC will likely become a great option, but brass availability and quality currently favours the other big 7s. Still working through this thread so haven't read the whole thing yet, but this caught my eye. I had a Kimber 325 WSM I wanted to do something with and went back and forth between 7 WSM and 7 SAUM. At the time, 7 WSM brass was unobtainium and 7 SAUM ADG brass was. I could have gone 7 WSM with necked down 300 WSM brass, but the SAUM had more appeal at the time. I ordered a couple hundred ADG cases and built the SAUM and have no regrets. I'm getting 2910-2920 with RL26 and 180 Scenars with no pressure issues. H1000 will get around 2850 with 180's. 24" Lilja 1:8...
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ADG is a game changer in my book. They’ve filled a niche for awesome brass no one else did/wanted to and they seem to sell every piece they can.
Your 7 SAUM sounds like a beast.
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Interesting discussion. Cool to see all the different stuff that works for people. I was messing with my made in 1958 338 today with 250 Scenars. RL26 and it seem to be getting along decent. It should hit stuff pretty well. Maybe not needed but it’s in the locker and hasn’t hunted in a couple years…. That'll do just fine...............338 Win is a great round; I've had 5 of them, down to one now. Most are very accurate, IME. What stock is that? MM
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That doesn't have near the juice of the 338 Skullfuck. It’s for my wife and daughter to use The .338 Skullfuck is a better choice for those who spend hours slowly polishing, back and forth, their bullets before taking multiple photos of the massive projectiles aimed toward the heavens like a phallus aimed at the very Gods. So, yeah, not a great choice for anyone without a syndrome and a need to compensate for other issues.
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My 28 Nosler is hell on elk. 26" barrel, 2" Terminator T3 Brake, 180 Berger Hybrids with a Zeiss HD5 is hard to beat.
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Interesting discussion. Cool to see all the different stuff that works for people. I was messing with my made in 1958 338 today with 250 Scenars. RL26 and it seem to be getting along decent. It should hit stuff pretty well. Maybe not needed but it’s in the locker and hasn’t hunted in a couple years…. I am thinking hard on giving them a try out of my Ruger 338. Never had an issue with the 210gr PT that I use, but something slickier couldn't hurt. Pretty sure I could cover all my bases with the 3 big game rifles with various sizes of Scenars. 6.5-139/136gr; .30-155gr; 338-250gr.
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That'll do just fine...............338 Win is a great round; I've had 5 of them, down to one now. Most are very accurate, IME.
What stock is that?
MM It’s a Legend MM.
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Pointer, I can’t see them being bad. I’ve seen 220’s from the RUM and 139’s do great. Also the 150’s from 7’s doing very well.
Looking forward shooting it some more. Adds a little bit of legs to the 338.
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From a reloading standpoint which would be easier to dial in rm vs prc? Sounds like you’re contending with an unused belt on one and clicker issues on the other. Also helps narrow rifle choice down
Prc
Xbolt
Bergara ridge
Savage trial hunter
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Xbolt
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From a reloading standpoint which would be easier to dial in rm vs prc? Sounds like you’re contending with an unused belt on one and clicker issues on the other. Also helps narrow rifle choice down
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Xbolt With weight being a issue, I would lean toward the Bergara Ridge myself. There are dies that can handle the clicker issues. I am just not a X-Bolt fan, and opinions vary, so go with what you want. E
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Pointer, I can’t see them being bad. I’ve seen 220’s from the RUM and 139’s do great. Also the 150’s from 7’s doing very well.
Looking forward shooting it some more. Adds a little bit of legs to the 338. That's what I'm hoping to do, add some legs! I need to get some 30mm rings for my Ruger and mount one of the SWFA 6Xs I have laying around, or put the 6X on my Tikka 22LR and put the SWFA 3-9 on the Ruger. From what I've seen of the 139gr out of my 260 Rem, I can't imagine the 250s out of the 338 not being enough for anything I'll have point it at. Thinking I do need to kill a whitetail with it next year. Guessing the neighbors will be able to tell when I've shot! 
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