Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Rifles Rem 700 or Win 70

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Remington quality has been in the crapper since the early 90s. The 700 design as built by Remington had some weaknesses which have been acknowledged and addressed by others for years. It’s hard to be as robust as a full length extractor, without a full length extractor. I own both designs and more. I don’t think it’s so much a push feed vs CRF comparison between the two, as it is a perceived robustness of operation in adverse conditions view by many. Back in the late 90s-early 2000s, I’ve sent multiple brand new M40s back to the REM Arms mil shop over bad headspace, bad receivers, and crap chambers that broke extractors. Execution has always been Remington’s problem…..not design. There are plenty of Remington clones that are made better. A Mauser 98 with a 3-pos is the stuff, though.

Spot on.

Looks like Winchester is the ultimate for quality. Especially if you like noisy safeties, weak striker springs, hot glue bed jobs, mostly abortion stock designs…

Is their a noisier safety than the gun going off when you take it off?

I'll say this and butt out.

I've owned exactly 29 model 700s and still have a few.
From 17 Rem to .375h&h. Models as old as the early 70s and as new as 2020. Some were more accurate than others, but all were accurate enough for the job. Some were real screamers. Most notable were a VLS in 223 and a 700PSS in 308.

I've never had a bolt handle fall off, an unintentional discharge, or any of the other stuff I often hear about.

Good question. I’m not a gun slob therefore my junk is maintained. Never had it happen.

Model 70, old style trigger, CRF for me. Pre 64 or Classic would work.

I have replaced three extractors on 700's, never had a bolt fall off, or AD.

Handle them both and you'll see why I'll never own a Remington again (I started with Remington, quite a few in the 80s but when Win reintroduced the CRF in the 90s I was done and bought as many as I could). Would not buy a current production W70 but that's just me, I'm sure they are fine!