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They no longer own the news.

I find this an interesting story about just who "owns" the news.

WSJ Editor-in-Chief Admits To Davos Elites 'We No Longer Own The News'
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BY TYLER DURDEN
SUNDAY, JAN 21, 2024 - 07:45 AM
Thanks to the internet and (shrinking) press freedoms, legacy media outlets no longer have a monopoly on information and narratives.

Case in point, during a WEF discussion at Davos entitled "Defending Truth," Wall St. Journal EIC Emma Tucker lamented this loss of control over 'the facts,' as Modernity.news reports.

"I think there’s a very specific challenge for the legacy brands, like the New York Times and like the Wall Street Journal," Tucker said, adding "If you go back really not that long ago, as I say, we owned the news. We were the gatekeepers, and we very much owned the facts as well."

"If it said it in the Wall Street Journal, the New York Times, then that was a fact," she continued, adding "Nowadays, people can go to all sorts of different sources for the news and they’re much more questioning about what we’re saying."

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Nobody owns the facts. The facts are, well, the facts.

Now, the spin, that's another matter.

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Maybe if you hadn't lied to us so many times about so many things, Emma. We keep track of that kind of thing.


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These are just the death throes of an industry.

Learn to code.

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Well, they have been able to fool a lot of people a long time into thinking they weren't controlled by the left.


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AI will dominate real and fabricated news in the near future. Like right now.

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They never owned the news, they owned propaganda, big difference.


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It's about money.

When your money comes from a subscriber base, you need to cater to that base.

That means you can't report facts, you report lies to your subscribers, to keep the money train rolling.

So reporting facts doesn't matter.

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Originally Posted by Stickfight
These are just the death throes of an industry.

Learn to code.

LMAO !!

Witty. Very witty.

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It’s not just the lies and bias, it’s the news they don’t cover.


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Originally Posted by Houston_2
AI will dominate real and fabricated news in the near future. Like right now.

You ain't wrong.

I never would have thought that of you - no offense.. smile


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^^^

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Dear Emma: You and your type are the very ones who arrogantly pooped in your own nest until it got full - so you own your lament.


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Originally Posted by okie john
Maybe if you hadn't lied to us so many times about so many things, Emma. We keep track of that kind of thing.


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Sorry, honey.

They're upset that they only own the pipeline, not the news these days. And there are many pipelines. Some even get close to the truth.. sometimes.


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Mainstream is all propaganda all the time. When Chinese people visit America they are surprised to see we watch news channels at all. They say no one watches news channels in China because they all know its propaganda. That's how it'll be here soon. I don't even watch fox anymore.

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Originally Posted by AKislander
Nobody owns the facts. The facts are, well, the facts.

Now, the spin, that's another matter.

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they fought it with everything they had - but when the revenue dried up , they stopped investing in investigative journalism and chose to go with editorial reporting, where a talking head gives their opinion on the state of things and told anyone who would listen the fate of the world rested on their integrity.

Meanwhile one or two guys who never attended a liberal arts school on journalism can go on Youtube ,crank out a high quality video on breaking news or an in depth report, get 2m views and make $75K on it.

Journalism isn't dead, its been wrested away from the corporations and put in the hands of the people. The consumers are telling them they are fine with having to wade thru a bunch of lies and garbage to get their news on social media, because at least they can get an alternative opinion of the lies and garbage the mass media is pushing.

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Kinda.



Our “news” was full of propaganda during WWii.
Probably before.

And the only changes have been away from nationalism, to globalism.

Look back at the Cold War, weapons specifically.
The MIC kept us up nights eating Roll Aids over the planes, tanks, ships, subs, and warheads the Soviet Union had.


We now know that was a joke.
“Quantity has its own qualities”
Their quality was absent, performance was not as advertised.

We know that now,
The intelligence folks knew much of it then.
They all lied.
Partly to bleed Russia, largely to bleed US.


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Originally Posted by dale06
It’s not just the lies and bias, it’s the news they don’t cover.

Agree !!!!


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Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
Kinda.



Our “news” was full of propaganda during WWii.
Probably before.

And the only changes have been away from nationalism, to globalism.

Look back at the Cold War, weapons specifically.
The MIC kept us up nights eating Roll Aids over the planes, tanks, ships, subs, and warheads the Soviet Union had.


We now know that was a joke.
“Quantity has its own qualities”
Their quality was absent, performance was not as advertised.

We know that now,
The intelligence folks knew much of it then.
They all lied.
Partly to bleed Russia, largely to bleed US.

Hearst was notorious for using his newspapers to ruin people.


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