Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Optics Formidilosus - paid forum user?

I talked to the gentleman in question a couple of years ago. He seemed like a perfectly personable guy, but his results do not jive with mine. I also have the advantage of knowing the return statistics of several manufacturers. What he says about scopes sounds plausible, but does not jive with with what I have seen and what I know about the statistics of this. It also does not jive with the experience of a couple of fairly large armories I interact with for my dayjob.

I have not read everything he wrote over the years, but enough to think a lot of it is at least embellished (hunting stories) or out right silly nonsense (some of the scope tests). He does a good job of making them sound scientific, but it is really too uncontrolled of an experiment to make conclusions out of. I've been involved in designing equipment for durability testing of this stuff and I can tell you right off hand that the way he does it I can make any scope fail or any scope pass. It is as simple as that.

Beyond that, he clearly has a beef with Vortex. I do not know the origin of it, but he has never managed to find a Vortex scope that works. Not once. That's one hell of a lucky streak. He also has never managed to find a Nightforce scope that wasn't flawless, indestructible, etc. Is he a Nightforce shill? Perhaps, but he also likes older LOW designs like the SWFA SS HD and Bushnell LRHS/LRTS. I know with good amount of certainty that he does not have any personal relationship with the folks at SWFA. In other words, I have no idea where his bias comes from, but I know he hates Vortex with a passion.

He either does or did work for the military. Sometimes, he talks about it all the time and other times he goes all secret squirrel about it. I did not bother to check whether that is true or not, but he does like to sound mysterious.

He goes from forum to forum and bashes companies he does not like in more or less the same way. I know that on at least a couple of forums he got paid to stick around, presumably because he spins a nice sounding story and attracts an audience. Since it is always some form of the same nonsense, I sorta stopped paying attention to him a couple of years ago.

Thanks for finding that again mcclure. I vaguely remember that post from Koshkin. I started questioning Form's validity when I mentioned the scopes I've used to cull whitetails and hogs. The majority of those failed his tests in spite of them performing well for me. Then he gets into this "I kill game too, thousands (plural) of them over the years. His ego won't allow me to believe a whole lot of what he says. I asked him over on RS not too long ago why he quit posting over here, and his reply was that nobody on 24HCF was interested in learning anything.

Interestingly enough, I just listened to a podcast that Form was on with the Shoot to Hunt guys (Avery owns Rokslide) from a year ago or so, where he emphatically stated that he has never received a single dollar from any firearm industry forum, and was clear that he isn't paid by Rokslide.

Did talk about a bunch of industry guys being butthurt about their scopes being evaluated though. And people being butthurt when their favorite brand doesn't do well. Which, that sounds pretty legit give how the optics forum goes around here.

He seemed knowledgeable when it came to scopes.

When it came to telling all sundry in the Handgun forum a 22 was a 32 a 9mm was a 45 with solids bullschidt his lustre wore off pretty damn quick.

Probably an FBlIe guy...

I asked him about how he came to have that many rifles (and he had some HIGH class stuff). He'd said before in passing, that he'd killed enough deer, he didn't need to kill one, just to kill one.

He only seemed knowlegeable about scopes if one was not well versed in scopes.

You're well versed in handguns and saw through his handgun bullshit pretty fast.

He stepped on his dick about scopes just like he stepped on his dick about handguns.

Just as we were about to find out how and why he owned so many rifles….deer hunting. Zing, right turn

Formidilosus was full of himself

He only seemed knowlegeable about scopes if one was not well versed in scopes.

You're well versed in handguns and saw through his handgun bullshit pretty fast.

He stepped on his dick about scopes just like he stepped on his dick about handguns.

I am NOT as well versed with the plethora of scopes as others and readily admit it, which is why I rarely post here and shut up and listen.

When he started in with the "handgun bullet testing" I quit his BS pretty quick.

Just as we were about to find out how and why he owned so many rifles….deer hunting. Zing, right turn

Interestingly enough, I just listened to a podcast that Form was on with the Shoot to Hunt guys (Avery owns Rokslide) from a year ago or so, where he emphatically stated that he has never received a single dollar from any firearm industry forum, and was clear that he isn't paid by Rokslide.

Did talk about a bunch of industry guys being butthurt about their scopes being evaluated though. And people being butthurt when their favorite brand doesn't do well. Which, that sounds pretty legit give how the optics forum goes around here.

It's easy to see for the Players but some of the Fans get sucked in.

Formy (Chuck) lies about his testing and everything else.

Everyone who knows understands he just a liar about everything from scope testing to hunting experience.

It's easy to see for the Players but some of the Fans get sucked in.

The Maven tests are clear examples of his fake testing and bias.

To be clear I like and use Maven scopes and can smile at how Formy had to quit lying on Rokslide about how the Maven scopes performed.