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The left’s objective is the ruination of America as a world power. Doesn’t matter to them how it happens, just so long as the US cannot stand in the way of world domination. I know people don’t like to hear it, but there’s a lot of good people left in this country who know right from wrong, and will still support what is right. If you want to dominate the world, you must first eliminate the United States as a power. Yes, it really is that simple. The New World Order, or whatever you wanna call it, is bent on world domination. Everyone is gonna have to submit to their control. No private property, you go where they tell you to go. You, you do what they tell you. Son they can steal elections and ruin us from within, or they can start a civil war, eliminating a good portion of the population in the bargain, and destroying our capacity to block their control. I works out for them regardless. Reon Our Government IS The NWO. we are a major player. It’s not so much about destroying The US as a World Power, but destroying our Capitalistic form of government, but more important and critical to the success of their plan they must destroy the will of the American people. Putin doesn’t want to play, he and his Country will no partake in the NWO and without Russia and their allies, The Globalists plan for a NWO cannot succeed. Thus the plan to start a proxy war with Russia for the sole purpose of a Regime Change. We ain’t dumping $Billions into this proxy war to save the Ukrainian people, we are in it for a regime change, but it ain’t working. The US and its European allies has lost more than they ever dreamed. Yeah. Putin isn't going for any NWO B.S.
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All they have to do is unplug the grid, and 95% of the population will be dead in a few months. No gas, food, water, or meds. The only folks left to take care of will be the preppers and those living off grid.
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back in the '90s, we (Army E-4) had talk about shooting US citizens. it was pretty clear in my unit that we would say no, with some exceptions. we would protect the Constitution and the Office of the Presidency, but not the Person. we are a Constitutional Republic, not a democracy as some people claim it. if it was a democracy, then we are only one step away of communism/socialism/authoritarianism.
if we went in as riot police in a protest, no. if the rioters were bombing or shooting at civilians, yes. Civil War, yes but you got to pick a side, either government or the rebels. in the 1860s, i along with others E-4's would go to Grey side. it was about the Rights of Self Determination, not slavery as we are taught. Lincoln in 1863, 2 years into the War, said slavery is bad, while Maryland and other Northern states that joined the Blue, still had slavery. Lincoln said something like that that he didn't care about slavery, as long as the Country remains whole. they don't care to teach you about that. or about the other policies that the US government did some 30 -40 years ago.
by the time i got out of the Army, a few years later, then 9/11 happened. i was too old (18 - 27yo can join) and my knees were and are bad, but i and some other E-4s (retired) still went to my unit and volunteered again. but we were told no, we were to old, but you can help. so we did with no pay or rank. those days i would say no to shooting US citizens.
20 years go by, and no again. but Biden stole the election, left Afghanistan to the Taliban and Biden real fuched ups, and include the Obummer's transgenderism (not his manwife, Moochelle), i say maybe no. Trump did a real pay raise, started manufacturing next gen everything, did a complete turn around on the military budget and so on. i definitely would say no to shooting US civilians.
just because a general said to shoot US civilians does NOT make it right. you say loudly, "Sir, i refuse to accept that order. i feel that i cannot shoot US civilians and i find that order illegal." he probably have you taken away, but a good lawyer (you can go to JAG or civilian lawyer) and then you go to probably a General Courts Martial (a presiding judge-lt colonel and 2 judges - 2 majors) and then give evidence and let fate decide.
https://www.historians.org/about-aha-and-membership/aha-history-and-archives/gi-roundtable-series/pamphlets/em-11-what-shall-be-done-with-the-war-criminals-(1944)/are-superior-orders-a-legitimate-defense#The%20American%20View You were an E4 in the 90's? Fuggg I thought you were an old man. I'm fairly young and was an E5 when I got out in 1988.
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Knowing that the USA is the golden target because of its Capitalistic government, which is dominant, but I also wonder if it is the Christian element that is the real target? Christians are absolutely a target in this country these days. Like Ive said before, our gov is evil. Democrats despise Christians. You pretty much have ot hate God to be a worthy Dem these days Spot on, gents. If you get into a deep enough discussion with a liberal, you will find that at the root of their beliefs. God is a dirty word to them because they have no argument for that.
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Knowing that the USA is the golden target because of its Capitalistic government, which is dominant, but I also wonder if it is the Christian element that is the real target? Christians are absolutely a target in this country these days. Like Ive said before, our gov is evil. Democrats despise Christians. You pretty much have ot hate God to be a worthy Dem these days Spot on, gents. If you get into a deep enough discussion with a liberal, you will find that at the root of their beliefs. God is a dirty word to them because they have no argument for that. There are plenty of libs that go to church every Sunday. I know some of them. Abortion is okay and the government has no intentions of taking our guns. I've heard it plenty, not in my own church but from others. They defend the dems at every turn. These same people will not blink an eye if true Christians are targeted. In fact they will assist in it. They already are by their vote.
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Knowing that the USA is the golden target because of its Capitalistic government, which is dominant, but I also wonder if it is the Christian element that is the real target? Christians are absolutely a target in this country these days. Like Ive said before, our gov is evil. Democrats despise Christians. You pretty much have ot hate God to be a worthy Dem these days Spot on, gents. If you get into a deep enough discussion with a liberal, you will find that at the root of their beliefs. God is a dirty word to them because they have no argument for that. There are plenty of libs that go to church every Sunday. I know some of them. Abortion is okay and the government has no intentions of taking our guns. I've heard it plenty, not in my own church but from others. They defend the dems at every turn. These same people will not blink an eye if true Christians are targeted. In fact they will assist in it. They already are by their vote. Jim, I agree. Those "churchy" liberal phonies are willing and zealous participants in the complete destruction of your country.. and YOU. Some of the biggest liars and phonies you'll find. Discussions with liberal "churchy" types has proven that to me. I have no use for them, and quite frankly, despise them immensely. They are complete frauds, loyal to nothing. I stopped engaging them in conversation long ago. Not worth my time, and I almost always came away feeling like I needed a bath.
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Some would balk and object. some would follow orders and never question authority. They have been trained and broken so they do follow orders.
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back in the '90s, we (Army E-4) had talk about shooting US citizens. it was pretty clear in my unit that we would say no, with some exceptions. we would protect the Constitution and the Office of the Presidency, but not the Person. we are a Constitutional Republic, not a democracy as some people claim it. if it was a democracy, then we are only one step away of communism/socialism/authoritarianism.
if we went in as riot police in a protest, no. if the rioters were bombing or shooting at civilians, yes. Civil War, yes but you got to pick a side, either government or the rebels. in the 1860s, i along with others E-4's would go to Grey side. it was about the Rights of Self Determination, not slavery as we are taught. Lincoln in 1863, 2 years into the War, said slavery is bad, while Maryland and other Northern states that joined the Blue, still had slavery. Lincoln said something like that that he didn't care about slavery, as long as the Country remains whole. they don't care to teach you about that. or about the other policies that the US government did some 30 -40 years ago.
by the time i got out of the Army, a few years later, then 9/11 happened. i was too old (18 - 27yo can join) and my knees were and are bad, but i and some other E-4s (retired) still went to my unit and volunteered again. but we were told no, we were to old, but you can help. so we did with no pay or rank. those days i would say no to shooting US citizens.
20 years go by, and no again. but Biden stole the election, left Afghanistan to the Taliban and Biden real fuched ups, and include the Obummer's transgenderism (not his manwife, Moochelle), i say maybe no. Trump did a real pay raise, started manufacturing next gen everything, did a complete turn around on the military budget and so on. i definitely would say no to shooting US civilians.
just because a general said to shoot US civilians does NOT make it right. you say loudly, "Sir, i refuse to accept that order. i feel that i cannot shoot US civilians and i find that order illegal." he probably have you taken away, but a good lawyer (you can go to JAG or civilian lawyer) and then you go to probably a General Courts Martial (a presiding judge-lt colonel and 2 judges - 2 majors) and then give evidence and let fate decide.
https://www.historians.org/about-aha-and-membership/aha-history-and-archives/gi-roundtable-series/pamphlets/em-11-what-shall-be-done-with-the-war-criminals-(1944)/are-superior-orders-a-legitimate-defense#The%20American%20View You were an E4 in the 90's? Fuggg I thought you were an old man. I'm fairly young and was an E5 when I got out in 1988. i was still in high school. i enlisted in '91. i tried going to college, but it bored me to death.
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Sounds about right. I will add that the same basic principles of this essay can be applied to LEO as well.
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In my opinion the biggest fatalities of the latter generations are the inability to think for themselves, the inability to think outside the box and the inclination to question authority. When my boys were growing up I would ask them questions intended to make them think. Which side of a cow has the most hair on it? How far can you walk into the forest? How can you cut a cake into eight equal pieces by making only three cuts? Simple questions to which the answer is obvious once explained.
Dealing with people can be complicated like the essay explains. People are generally emotional animals and most never advance beyond that level. You can use that to your advantage or you can try to move the immovable object.
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Sounds about right. I will add that the same basic principles of this essay can be applied to LEO as well. Yes, le is very similar.
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Or, do you think the Government would be crazy enough to turn the few hundred thousand military men out on us millions of citizens while we still got millions of guns in our possession? They may kill a lot of us, but they would be outnumbered by at least 100 to 1 or more by all the gunowners here now.. I can imagine that if the govt. ever attempts gun confiscation (and bow and crossbows too) they would first collect data on people and addresses who have placed orders for bows, arrows, pistols, rifles, shotguns, ammunition or components, powder, primers, reloading equipment, etc., etc. And then like nazi or commies, they would do massive "no knock" warrants for as long as it takes. The military would not necessarily be needed for this type of operation. They could build up a national special unit plain clothes force of far left zealots to operate under cover FBI style.
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Or, do you think the Government would be crazy enough to turn the few hundred thousand military men out on us millions of citizens while we still got millions of guns in our possession? They may kill a lot of us, but they would be outnumbered by at least 100 to 1 or more by all the gunowners here now.. I can imagine that if the govt. ever attempts gun confiscation (and bow and crossbows too) they would first collect data on people and addresses who have placed orders for bows, arrows, pistols, rifles, shotguns, ammunition or components, powder, primers, reloading equipment, etc., etc. And then like nazi or commies, they would do massive "no knock" warrants for as long as it takes. The military would not necessarily be needed for this type of operation. They could build up a national special unit plain clothes force of far left zealots to operate under cover FBI style. Data's already there for a big chunk. You ever buy a hunting license? No law against compiling that list and if you have a hunting license, they'd reasonably suspect you had some sort of weapon to take the game....
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Or, do you think the Government would be crazy enough to turn the few hundred thousand military men out on us millions of citizens while we still got millions of guns in our possession? They may kill a lot of us, but they would be outnumbered by at least 100 to 1 or more by all the gunowners here now.. I can imagine that if the govt. ever attempts gun confiscation (and bow and crossbows too) they would first collect data on people and addresses who have placed orders for bows, arrows, pistols, rifles, shotguns, ammunition or components, powder, primers, reloading equipment, etc., etc. And then like nazi or commies, they would do massive "no knock" warrants for as long as it takes. The military would not necessarily be needed for this type of operation. They could build up a national special unit plain clothes force of far left zealots to operate under cover FBI style. Data's already there for a big chunk. You ever buy a hunting license? No law against compiling that list and if you have a hunting license, they'd reasonably suspect you had some sort of weapon to take the game.... Speaking of hunting licenses, carry permits, permits to purchase, etc., why do you think the Feds have not taken Pot off of Schedule I prohibited substances list, but have allowed States to “legalize” it for medical and recreational use. Millions of instant felons and they have that list as well.
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Hard to go against machine guns tanks, gas, air strikes.
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Hard to go against machine guns tanks, gas, air strikes. And That Commander and Chief Buddy of Yours I’m Crazy for Coco Puffs Hahahaha Hahahaha
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Hard to go against machine guns tanks, gas, air strikes. seems ,the Ukrains ,have shown against the Russians ,that cheap drones work good against everything but planes ..Oh yea ,growing up I watched on the news the Viet cong go against all of our machine guns, tanks and planes .and it didnt stop them
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Hard to go against machine guns tanks, gas, air strikes. seems ,the Ukrains ,have shown against the Russians ,that cheap drones work good against everything but planes ..Oh yea ,growing up I watched on the news the Viet cong go against all of our machine guns, tanks and planes .and it didnt stop them Don't forget the way those people in Afghanistan reacted to the Russians and later our own military.
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