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I thought bbls swapped but not the stocks. The G2 can take higher pressure rounds like 6.5 Grendel. Guess some aftermarket bbl makers make it so their G2 barrels wont work on G1. For that reason.
I had a G2. Felt like crap. Away it went .
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I have just recently started putting together a TC contender collection and they are getting quite pricey. I bought a set up pistol in 223 with a super 14 barrel, then added a super 14 in 7-30 waters, a 21” carbine barrel in 30-30 along with a carbine stock set. Then just in the last week ordered a super 14 in 357 maximum and a pachmayr grip and forend. Have scopes to get mounted and dies to find and of course components to buy. That should keep me busy for quite awhile. I am getting into this game pretty late as I will be 63 in a few weeks but I gues they’re right,, it is an old man’s game. 😃
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I’m stuck in one of those nostalgia pits. Not quite a rabbit hole. Back around 1974 I bought a Contender with a 14” 35 Remington barrel and a 22 RF. Then I picked up a 9MM and 45 Long Colt. A few years went by and a friend was getting out of drag racing. I traded him the TC for a Dodge 426 Max Wedge. We just met up again at a dinner. I asked if he still had it? He said yes, never shot it. I asked if he wanted to send it home? He said maybe, we can talk about it later. It has the old wood stocks on it. It’s not like I’m shopping for one, but I’d like to have THAT one back. MD went straight wall so I could hunt the old shotgun counties with it. I haven’t seen it in decades. Saying it’s in the VG condition when we traded, what would be a fair offer on both ends. I agree that there is likely no chance that TC reopens. Even though SSK is doing receivers, the cost of a complete Contender is very high. Four hundred for a receiver while you can buy a CVA complete rifle for that price.Then add on $300 to $400 for a barrel and another hundred for a synthetic stock or two hundred plus for wood and it is a non starter for most people. I love my Contenders, but probably in the future it will be CVA or Henry that get my money. Joe these prices that Leon mentioned are close to where you are....Although, your receiver would be a G1 not a G2, and for me not as desirable since the bbls and buttstocks do not fit the G2.... Thanks. I looked on GB a couple years ago when MD went Straight wall, and was thinking about contacting my old friend. Prices were all over the place, under $400, and over $1000. I'll see if he will tell me what he wants? But that's against his nature. Back in our street rodding days he would tell people, " No offense, but I want it as cheap as I can get it, so my first offer is $100. If you want more than that, tell me what you want? If I have it, I'll pay it, if I don't, I'll pass." He got lots of cool stuff cheap.
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All of the ordinary American break-actions suck in comparison with falling-blocks, but they fill a price niche, and the TCs’ swappable barrels had some purpose, but I think the Tupperware®️ rifles drove the final nail in the coffin, along with the AR craze. Guys who once might’ve bought TC barrels are now buying cheap bolt-actions or uppers. I have a Henry .357. It’s a nice rifle: works perfectly, has very nice wood, and only cost $500, but scoping one is a kludge. I have a scope set up for accuracy testing and maybe deer hunting someday, but it wears a Romeo 5 for just shooting, and a slip-on stock riser. i hate tupperware stocks. i use High Plains Laminate gunstocks. at the time, you could pick a Encore action and stock for around $300 and a custom barrel for another $300. the last time i've looked it was around $400-500 for the action and stock, then another $400-500 for the custom barrel. the Contender was the same price too, but i bought 10" barrels from ebay, at the time, they were around $175 - 225. (22 Hornet, 30 and 357 Herrett) 500 Linebaugh with Royal Jacaranda stock [img] https://i.imgur.com/LYE9aD9.jpg?1[/img] i also have a Sapphyre gunstock on my 444 Marlin http://www.highplainsgunstocks.com/wood-selection-page.htmli never had a upper, i used to shoot them in the Army all the time and i got sick of them. i've gotten rid of cheap Tupperware bolts action years ago. now i'm into sporterized '91 thru '98 Mausers, 1898 Springfield Krag, Type 99, Carcano's.......... i have a 1972 Winchester m94 in 35/30-30 (JES Reboring) and it werks perfectly and accurate too.
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I hope SSK ramps things up. It’s been difficult for a lot of businesses the last few years. After what the new owners of SSK pulled on me and many other people....hope they go out of business ! Ever since JD Jones sold to the new owners they are on their way to bankruptcy !
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Like the feel of the G1 synth stock and G2 rifle forend ( made by Choate for TC ). Added in a cheekpiece of Kydex and it worked well for me.
Hunted a while and determined my preference for rifles is falling block, not break open.
Contender pistol w Pachmayr gripper rear and non medallion front is my setup
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Like the feel of the G1 synth stock and G2 rifle forend ( made by Choate for TC ). Added in a cheekpiece of Kydex and it worked well for me.
Hunted a while and determined my preference for rifles is falling block, not break open.
Contender pistol w Pachmayr gripper rear and non medallion front is my setup Not to change the thread too much :), but I have a few break open Handis that I may refresh with some Boyds wood. I don't mind the Handis, but I never cared for the stocks. Thank goodness for aftermarket stuff!
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At least 2 of the key former TC guys are now at CVA. Interesing.
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At least 2 of the key former TC guys are now at CVA. Interesing. Do you know either of them? Maybe you can pick their brains for future projects.
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Everyone knows you can't hit anything with a Contender....I have 3 receivers, 4 barrels. Not nearly enough barrels. The .30-30...100 yards .30 Sneezer... .22 LR...50 yds (I'd rather be lucky than good.) .22 Short...25 yards (Pigs hate this gun)
I am..........disturbed.
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At least 2 of the key former TC guys are now at CVA. Interesing. Do you know either of them? Maybe you can pick their brains for future projects. I don't know them. I was lobbying the guys I do know for a 16" pistol or take down in 360 BH and 6.5 grendel. I would put a Sharps Bros butt stock on the pistols. The 16" pistol lets you go back and forth between pistol and rifle without ATF issues. I mentioned that it would be similar to the TC super 16 and that's when he mentioned that the TC guys were on board.
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my all time favorite contender barrel is my 22 K-Hornet its a great truck gun where legal , i own a lot of Contender stuff , sad T.C. stuff is no longer manufactured . i do have Bull Berry doing a 17 Hornet barrel for me another great little round. Pete53
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I wish they would make the Cherokee once again in .32 and .45
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Steve, that looks like a 10X Bushnell on the 30-303. I have one on my Ruger Swift. Love the scope, fixed power with no parallax adjustment. Really rugged.
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Steve, that looks like a 10X Bushnell on the 30-303. I have one on my Ruger Swift. Love the scope, fixed power with no parallax adjustment. Really rugged. It is a 10x40. Unfortunately, like many other fixed power scopes, it's gone the way of the dodo. The sales gotta be there though.
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If somebody was to buy TC, what would they get besides the brand name?
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My guess is that if somebody bought the TC name, they'd proly do the Encore, G2 and maybe an inline MZ.
Or maybe come up with something completely new.....
maybe a TCR with a sensible safety LOL Or a falling block?
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It'd be great if they opened shop again. I prefer my T/C Encore with the 7mm-08 barrel over my rem 700's and 7400. Be even better if the used prices would come back down off cloud 9. Just last year Optic planet had a few T/C barrels on sale for around $250, now those same barrels are over $400. I've not counted my barrels, but I have around 15 different rifle barrels and 6 pistol barrels for my Encore frame, plus 3 other Encore frames and 1 PH frame. Not to mention 5 Contender frames, barrels, furniture and a rifle set-up. I have the G1 frames, they are easy to open, but not factory easy-open frames. I have two G2 barrels that work fine on the frames, just change the barrel lugs out and it'll work great. I'm always looking and buying Encore/Pro-Hunter frames when I can. I'm trying to slow down on the Contenders. I bought a Contender pistol not long ago, thinking okay, this makes #3. A few days later, I realized it was #5, lol. They're certainly an addiction for sure.
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If TC is to come back, wonder what their product line would be?
Proly the Encore. Doubt any classic smokepoles.
I'd like to see them do something like the Savage 219.
Only have one Contender now, have had a half dozen LOL Never been a fan of the Encore and didn't even like the G2.
Only reason I keep a Contender around, the .35 rem Super 14 is a hoot. Mines stainless frame w blued bbl. Like the look (wears Pachmayr grip and forend). Had a 4X Leupold on it, am trying to figure out what RDS to use.
One TC smokepole remains. A Hawken Silver Elite. Honestly, my favorite was the Renegade. Have had three of em.
But being old n cranky, sure is nice to run an inline, knock out a charge at end of the hunt. But even thats more hassle than I want to tolerate anymore.
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TC would have to compete against the CVA scout for the low end. Why even bother?
Dunno how the new SSK (or whoever makes it) Contender frame would affect things.
I think the Encore frame would be their main product.
After that they'd need something NEW. Again, a stainless 219 Savage clone (improved?). Seems "similar" enough to the old TC product line.
Maybe a boutique shop w higher end wood rifles?
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