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Peaceful, no Alamo, no civil war. Only the Riel Rebelion.

You forgetting 1812.


norm

Yes I did.

No civil war? What happened on the Plains of Abraham. The Fenian raids? The Arcadia clearances ? Lots and lots of violence between HBC and the Montreal Company’s,XYZ and NWC? A lot of it occurred before the American Revolution.

Then we have sir William Van Horne.

It is interesting to know many of the battles/wars always had an indian in the middle of it. I haven't read up on any of the eastern Wars since high school, perhaps as Canadians we should.

kkahmann points out the war between the NWC and HBC was a series of battles that shaped western Canada and would be forgotten about if it were not documented in the Fur trading journals and archived.
To my knowledge, the number of people killed is a complete unknown, similar to the Chilcotin war in BC, an unknown. One entity can't read or write and the other can lol.

I often wonder why the Riel resistance is referred to as a "rebellion" when an entity is fighting for and on its homeland? could of turned into a real blood bath if it got out of hand, and involved not just two opposing sides, but multiple.

673;
Morning once more, I still hope you're all warm, well and dry this morning.

While I know you and I have tilled this soil previously, I've read a wee bit more on the matter.

The more I read, the more I'm convinced that Jerry Potts should be the next person on our $100 bill at very least and for sure the western provinces owe him something.

While he was only one voice for sure and certain, as a war chief of long standing and huge reputation in the Blackfoot Nation as well as his relationship with the NWMP, when he spoke it carried weight.

There's fairly compelling evidence that he kept the Blackfoot Confederacy out of the 2nd Riel action.

If they'd joined in, that combined with Gabriel Dumont's military leadership would have been a game changer.

I know, I know, alternative history is always super speculative, but I'd argue while we might be Canada today, it'd be different - perhaps markedly different.

Lets also remember that at this time the US still had many within their halls of power who were inclined to push north and absorb as much of Canada as they could hold.

All the best.

Dwayne

I met Gabriel Dumont's grandson. He was an 80 year old prospector. He had good sized pozzilan (sp) claim. It's an additive to large pours of concrete.

Canada is.....dysfunctional at best. A huge,vast country with more resources per capita than pretty much anywhere. A once self sufficient country that has frittered away economic independance, our patriotic social identity, our military, our borders, our manufacturing, immigration policies, et al., tied up and strangled by regulation and wokeness.

Canada has abandoned any vision of independant destiny in favor of Globalization. Globalist billionaires have been allowed/invited a heavily increasing influence in domestic gov't policy. They see nothing more than a pile of resources for the taking and a gov't that thrives on shiny trinkets, beads, pat on the head accolades and is giving away the farm to get them.

We are at a point in history where if we don't take measures to reclaim our independance and self sufficiency we will be overun by outside interests. Globalists have set foot on our shores, already have their hands in our pie. It needs to stop. If we don't assert control of our destiny we will lose it. We will then understand how Native people felt when whites showed up and they welcomed these strange newcomers.. History repeats itself, quite apparent we don't learn from it.. It's happening right before our eyes. We are being lied to and decieved.

Edit to add, It has come to the point we need to protect the country from our government.

bushrat;
Good afternoon sir, I hope your part of Alberta is behaving in all ways possible and you're well.

Spot on with the post sir, unfortunately but absolutely spot on.

Your premier and Saskatchewan's give me some hope, while mine gives me less than none with his approach.

Thanks for the post and all the best.

Dwayne

I always liked what Chief Poundmaker said at his trial after the rebellion—“We made war gently upon you”. He stopped a massacre at the Battlefords that would have been another Little Big Horn.

No civil war, don't worry you're gonna get there.

No Civil War ?, We have treading on the edge constantly. We in the west have little or no understanding . And it's not Alberta .

Good post.
Everyone who is interested in Canadian history and you like guns needs to go to the museum in Battleford Sask, its beside the actual fort. It has a huge collection of firearms, many hundreds of them.

Then there is this beside the fort.

The largest mass execution in the Us was hanging 36 Natives (actually 33 Natives and 3 Metis) in Mankato, Minnesota in 1863.
The largest mass execution in Canada was hanging 8 Cree Natives after the Riel Rebellion.

Gabriel Dumont had a number of siblings, one was Joseph Dumont, our family had a lifelong friend who passed away in 2009, his name was Joseph Gabriel ..........(last name omitted) he was Joseph's grandson.

From pictures available, he looked like Gabriel Dumont, more importantly he acted like Gabriel Dumont and was not to be messed with, he taught me things that shaped my life and kept me out of alot of trouble, in my view, a true "old person".
My Mother who is 89 in a few weeks just reminded me recently how much she missed him as well.

If it were not for the leadership of some of the Cree Chiefs, Starblanket, Big Bear, Piapot, Poundmaker etc... western Canada would of turned into a collossal bloodbath, and frankly still is a simmering pot.

My 4th gen Grandfather was a "hunt captain" and a witness for treaty 4, and his name is on the monument in treaty park Ft Qu'appelle Sask, Sept 15 1874.

Amazing family history and something to be proud of.

My Dad's sde traces back to the Brazo's --- one distant relative was a fur trapper / explorer that he and his wife had 17 children in their immediate family. Different times bred different / strong - self reliant people.

Absolutely nothing to disagree with here. There is probably no other country which has willfully, and deliberately, cast aside it's heritage and tried to refute it's history to the extent that Canada has (although the US is certainly working at it). GD

Bushrat is not wrong, nor is Greydog.
This is why Country born people need to become active Politically, instead we have foreign born Politico's.

Something to note is how Native Canada has been subverted, it is controlled by only a few, maybe 5 individuals, yet control the most influential Political entity in Canada by subversion. If anyone wants to unleash a shyte storm, unleash this Political force, as an example.......what is the immigration policy of the Assembly of First Nations, or the Metis National Council?

Canada --- after 8 years of Justin Trudeau as a country we are fundamentally changed.

I do not think that we can recover from many of the policies that the Liberal and now the Liberal / NDP coalition has put in place. The left leaning woke teams are imbedded in Ottawa’s bureaucracy and any government coming in now trying to implement change will be dealing with foot dragging, holidays, sick leave, requests for change placed on the bottom of the pile, requests for information shuffled between desks.

The size of the Federal civil service has grown significantly, both in numbers and new departments and cannot be reeled in easily. This tax burden is significant.

Our ranking as a nation has dropped in all true measured economic indicators (not Freeland’s spin indicators) and risen when it comes to government corruption, government scandals, a haven for drug pushing and home for refugee terrorists. We cannot keep confidences and are excluded from meaningful security partnerships.

We have convicted criminals appointed as Ministers. We have a Prime Minister that has committed multiple ethics violations and continues to get a free ride as he bought the media.

We have Universities following DEI as a fundamental learning model and moving away from STEM teaching. We no longer can have an open debate of ideas without being shouted down.

We have censorship of on-line platforms that restricts open access to information to all people.

On a provincial level we have Quebec at one end that does not carry its weight for economic development killing projects that would benefit the whole nation. On the other end of the country, we have BC pursuing policies with free drugs and their own versions of native reconciliation driven by a left leaning government (granted there were no treaties in this province).

We have government leaders moaning over homelessness – yet these are the same leaders that kill projects that would employ all levels of skills --- including yard clean up, parking attendants, custodial --- the people that want to work to get ahead or just stay busy but cannot as there are no jobs for them.

We have the BS spin of creation of new green jobs. Go see small town Alberta around the coal plants that were shut down. Businesses closed and people that had meaningful work that supplemented their farm income now in trouble.

I would say the nation we were will be significantly changed for the future.