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The Ability to suppress is mandatory though Can you please help me understand that statement a bit better?
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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The Ability to suppress is mandatory though Can you please help me understand that statement a bit better? I think he means that he needs a threaded barrel.
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The Ability to suppress is mandatory though Can you please help me understand that statement a bit better? I think he means that he needs a threaded barrel. Sure does
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As to trigger upgrades, I like my Hyperfire DM. Shot a lot of very high end triggers in ARs. This one, to me, is 98% of what a Geissele is but costs $100. Breaks like an ice cycle and has a short, distinct reset. Milspec design, so easy to clean.
Just my $0.02. I appreciate the high value recommendation I bring up the "easy to clean" part because ARs " Carbon up" quick. Nothing necessarily wrong with the drop in boxes but I like to be able to maintain the trigger. I've used ARs more than the average bear and have seen about everything that can go wrong happen. I value rugged simplicity wherever I can get it. Have had a Sig piston 16" carbine for a while now. It's the only piston AR I have, and it runs much cleaner than my others. It also has a gas adjustment for suppressed shooting. Don't get a magazine of powder fouled ammo. Pistons run WAY cleaner for sure. Can't count how many partial mags I've dropped (top off when you get the chance!) that look like they came out of a campfire when running a can. That’s odd. I shot high power with more experienced guys who never cleaned their rifles. Dirty burning powder maybe?
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That’s odd. I shot high power with more experienced guys who never cleaned their rifles. Dirty burning powder maybe? Just stop. You are embarrassing yourself.
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The Ability to suppress is mandatory though Can you please help me understand that statement a bit better? I think he means that he needs a threaded barrel. Sure does Understand... I thought you were saying you needed to shoot a 5.56 AR-15 quietly...
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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Several years back, I had a spare stripped lower on hand. I'm not a big 5.56/.223 fan, so was shopping around for a barrel/caliber combo that "tweaked my interest". Sooo...... A shoppin' I did go! Wandering around a favored parts site, I found a BCA, heavy, spiral fluted .223 Wylde barrel for $58! 😳! The sale ended at midnight Saturday. Monday morning, I called and asked if I could still get the "sale deal"? "SURE!" From there, I built my first heavy barrel AR. It's crazy accurate! My upper and lower are just plain Jane old "Anderson Rifle Works" in Hebron, KY. If you don't mind spending a little extra to insure success, I'd drop a bit more on glass and trigger. My little rifle is really nice, but with that heavy barrel, it IS a bit hefty! .....but DAMN, does it ever shoot!
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Mixed reviews on BCA… drop your experiences with BCA as a side conversation I had one issue with an upper, and they made it right. Thats my find too. I think I've dealt with probably close to 15 uppers now. Mostly 223. Some 6.5 ppc. Can't recall if there were others. Since I reload I have no comments about factory ammo issues. I have yet to see one or own one that would not shoot MOA at 100 for 3/5 shots consistently Accuracy is in the barrel. IF you are after the best, then have the best. barrel done by someone like white oak and you are done. The rest is just fluff including the trigger. I would never have a cartridge drop in trigger though. Just buy a match 2 stage.. RRA were ok. Last I've had and been good are La Rue MBT and I generally thing all La Rue stuff is over priced for what you get... but the triggers just flat work.
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Aero 15 build, 1 in 8 twist. Likes 50gr Fiocchi BT
Usable trigger, MBT, a little heavy though.
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Accuracy is in the barrel. IF you are after the best, then have the best. barrel done by someone like white oak and you are done. Are you talking about buying an upper receiver without barrel and then buying a quality barrel to add to it?
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Accuracy is in the barrel. IF you are after the best, then have the best. barrel done by someone like white oak and you are done. Are you talking about buying an upper receiver without barrel and then buying a quality barrel to add to it? I’m not rost so won’t answer for him. But I’ll say that’s it yes. What’s more it’s fun. Have a vice on hand, a mag block, and a torque wrench. Pull the bolt and take it apart while you’re at it to see what makes it work so you might understand what happened if one day it doesn’t. Take a look at the trigger while you have to lower receiver open for the same reason. Outside of the recoil spring assembly in the buttstock you pretty much have the operation covered.
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Seems straight forward enough. 👍
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FWIW always used a Brownells upper receiver deal w two pins, in a vice, when putting on a bbl.
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The Ability to suppress is mandatory though Can you please help me understand that statement a bit better? I think he means that he needs a threaded barrel. Sure does I would be more concerned with an adjustable gas block, sine most ar barrels are 1/2x28. Or a flow through can instead of a adjustable gas block
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A couple months ago I paid $399 shipped, no tax for this Radical at KYGUNCO. Had an ok mil spec type trigger, not quite what I wanted so I did put a Trigger Tech 3 lb single stage in. Shoots MOA with 60gr Vmax Black Hills ammo.
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I’ve got a 20” version of that WOA upper on a cheaply PSA lower with a Geissselle SSAE trigger in it. It shoots itty bitty groups. And it’s heavy. I like that a lot, just wish it was threaded, any idea on weight? Just got home to weigh it. 9# 15 oz. That’s with an empty 10 round p-mag, Burris FF-2 3-9, Butler Creek flip-UPS, heavy Warne base/ring setup, and the Ace stock.
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A couple months ago I paid $399 shipped, no tax for this Radical at KYGUNCO. Had an ok mil spec type trigger, not quite what I wanted so I did put a Trigger Tech 3 lb single stage in. Shoots MOA with 60gr Vmax Black Hills ammo. What optic is that?
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A couple months ago I paid $399 shipped, no tax for this Radical at KYGUNCO. Had an ok mil spec type trigger, not quite what I wanted so I did put a Trigger Tech 3 lb single stage in. Shoots MOA with 60gr Vmax Black Hills ammo. What optic is that? Sorry, was off the grid on a remote ice fishing trip. It is an AGM TS35-384 Rattler with a remote auxiliary battery pack.
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I put this one together from various parts I had in drawers and in boxes. Tennessee Arms polymer lower and a 16" DelTon mid length light weight barrel. I did buy a Rise Armament 3.5 lb trigger and put in it as well. It's definitely a Frankenstein AR.
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What are the opinions about the side charging uppers, I think the op asked earlier. I am curious too. I guess you would need a tool to get the bolt out but sure would be nice with some scope arrangements.
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