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I have been just watching and listening.
Do you support any of these high prices? fair market prices and willing buyers
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Trash middlemen, so called distributors have a hand in this up their elbows.
Any of the trash between the factory and the shelf have gouged.
We have all heard every stupid excuse for these powder and primers price increases.
These increases will jump in many cases from one month to the next.
And oh my god, this super tuesday crap just finished and looky here.............prices go up.
its just laughable.
Best Heavy So tell us - what's an appropriate margin for the retailer to make Mr. Marx?
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Teal
I have been just watching and listening.
Do you support any of these high prices? fair market prices and willing buyers I understand the COST to make goes up so the COST to buy goes up. I buy what I can/want, when I can/want.
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interesting response teal
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interesting response teal Yeah - one born of reality.
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It’s not like it’s a surprise with the state of affairs as they are. I’m glad I’ll never have to buy again other than some certain bullets.
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Teal, Appropriate margins are your problem not anyone else's.
Nor do they have to be.
"fair market prices" ..........." willing to pay".............hilarious.
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Teal, Appropriate margins are your problem not anyone else's.
Nor do they have to be.
"fair market prices" ..........." willing to pay".............hilarious.
Best Heavy Lol - End Margin is paid by the consumer, no one else. MFG makes margin selling to middle guy, middle guy makes it selling to you and as that changes, shelf price changes. I'll make it easy for you - As input cost goes up - to maintain the margin means shelf price goes up. That's basic econ/supply chain. It costs 10 dollars, I'm at 15% margin so shelf price is $11.50, If cost goes to 20, shelf price 23. That's not gouging but holding the margin. Notice that they're selling the powder? People are willing to pay and it's sold out shortly. That's the fair market price. The market works. If you wanna be a communist and believe there should be market influence by something other than that - go ahead but don't drag the rest of us down into that idiocy.
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Teal, communism which is horrible by the way, has nothing to do with it.
GREED does, and that is what is at work here.
I call it greed.
You call it "paid by the consumer".
I and many thousands look and see what is happening and don't feel like helping someone help keep their lifestyle afloat or their next boat payment. .....or keep their profit margin fat.
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Pretty much any in stock IMR Powder is $75. Bidenomics. https://www.sportsmans.com/search/?text=imr+powder
A true sportsman counts his achievements in proportion to the effort involved and fairness of the sport. - S. Pope
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Teal, communism which is horrible by the way, has nothing to do with it.
GREED does, and that is what is at work here.
I call it greed.
You call it "paid by the consumer".
I and many thousands look and see what is happening and don't feel like helping someone help keep their lifestyle afloat or their next boat payment. .....or keep their profit margin fat.
Best Heavy Got it - not greedy for you to get things super cheap, even if it means the seller takes a loss but totally greedy for the retailer to cover their costs which have skyrocketed due to a host of reasons.
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I have posted in a different forum, Four 1# IMR4350, same lot#, $55 per bottle. VERY recent purchase.
If anyone is going through Denver......
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Teal, communism which is horrible by the way, has nothing to do with it.
GREED does, and that is what is at work here.
I call it greed.
You call it "paid by the consumer".
I and many thousands look and see what is happening and don't feel like helping someone help keep their lifestyle afloat or their next boat payment. .....or keep their profit margin fat.
Best Heavy Well, if you can persuade every one to just stop buying powder for a couple of years, I'm sure the price will come down.
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Higher prices on everything is a direct result of a stolen election. Hug a Covtard. No more mean tweets!
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I just got back from Scheels, IMR 4350 is 48.99 for a 1 lb. jug
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Sportsmans also wants $60 for 50 Accubonds
They can keep them
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Powder costs what it costs. None of us are going to change that. I picked up 4, 8 pound jugs in the last 2 months. No sense waiting to buy it. It was in stock when I needed to buy it so I just swallowed my pride and bought it. Would rather have enough sitting on my shelf instead of always wondering if I can find any when I run out. It’s the cost of doing business in the reloading business.
My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost.
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Sportsmans also wants $60 for 50 Accubonds
They can keep them 😵💫
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Reloading industry is essentially a monopoly. Remember that when you read Hodgepodge’s mission statement next time. Really? So how does Hodgdon control VV or Alliant or Shooter's World? Not saying that these 'new' prices don't suck, but I wouldn't place much blame on Hodgdon. Remember, they don't make powder they just buy it from other companies. Let’s look at this. VV has always been high as a giraffe’s arse, and has no real volume in the market. It’s a niche player at best. Like Norma. Sure, it’s been seen in the wild twice, and the Ivory Woodpecker only once, but it’s still functionally extinct…… Shooter’s World? Who? Can I go to my local golf, fish and gun emporium and buy “Shooter’s World” in a wide variety of options? A niche player fighting for scraps in the dark corners of the market. So, that leaves Alliant and Hodgdon as the only real players, and Hodgdon is a major distributor for Alliant. In the best case, the market is a functional duopoly, but it is as close to a monopoly as you can imagine.
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$74.99 for a pound of one of the most common powders used and at a major retailer. Damn, not a good sign. May have to start shooting a wrist rocket so I can afford the ammo. It used to be my favorite .30-06 powder, till I ran out. I guess I'll just use IMR 4895 or something else. Hmmmmm.
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