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You think Sam's thread is inane? Inane in the membrane, inane in the brain.. Rost is sort of our campfire Karen. They say only 3 things in life are guaranteed. Death, taxes and Rost posting on a thread of which he has great disdain. Maybe I should start an inane NFL thread and REALLY ruffle the inspectors feathers! lol Thanks to all for playing along with this semi-serious thread. I really did go and shoot a few guns yesterday and posted the honest result. And if anything I hope a few Jesus warriors realize that maybe they shouldn't be packin' heat in the pews. Sort of a subtle hint if you will... Dwayne, no calves yet but the weather is sure ready for 'em to start! Look out, Ricardo's loaded up with wadcutters!!! LOL Yup. You are right. Except I have not been an inspector for years now. And I certainly come to the campfire only to laugh at the stupidity this place has come when I'm in winter mode. Don't have spare time to waste during the working months. So you get a reprieve from me there. I certainly was not aware that you were up to posting these stupid threads that have been showing up since the TN bunch came around. As to packing, if you have clothes on I'd be thinking about it. Church is just another building. Simple as that. Glad you went out and shot. We should do that weekly but alas I fail there lately the last years. Karen. Oh for ph uck say Rost give it a break. Their absolutely nothing wrong with the thread. You always yearn for the good ol days of the campfire. We’ll point us in the direction of those supposed good times. I will see you in April safe travels. The good ole days when everyone kissed Miss Lynn’s pink boots.
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The pastor gave me permission to carry and a few weeks later revoked the permission.
PJ Why even ask? In some states, it is illegal and a felony to carry in a church without the pasters permission. That’s a bullschit law Any church I would attend, the pastor would probably be carrying anyway...  This Pastor does
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Campfire Ranger
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Another means for the Shepherd to protect the flock.
By the way, in case you missed it, Jeremiah was a bullfrog.
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Campfire Ranger
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The pastor gave me permission to carry and a few weeks later revoked the permission.
PJ Why even ask? In some states, it is illegal and a felony to carry in a church without the pasters permission. That’s a bullschit law Any church I would attend, the pastor would probably be carrying anyway... This Pastor does 👍👍
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Campfire Outfitter
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As is customary on self defense/CCW threads the discussion centers on the tool. Very few choose to discuss the most essential priorities which are mindset, training and focused deliberate practice.
Dryfire is free and very effective, your phone can become your shot timer and video system. If you are unwilling to make the effort to become competent you missed the mindset train. Set up your camera and video your presentation and see how much wasted motion you can eliminate. Use your phone as a shot timer and and see how long it takes it takes you hit a 6" paper plate at 10 yards from concealment. If you can't do this cold, on demand in 1.5 seconds your are fooling yourself about your competence. Add in the essential elements of positive target ID and discrimination and you will begin to understand the attention to detail necessary to kill w/ ruthless efficiency.
Or you can proclaim yourself good enough and talk schidt on the CF.
mike r
Don't wish it were easier
Wish you were better
Stab them in the taint, you can't put a tourniquet on that.
Craig Douglas ECQC
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Campfire 'Bwana
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I smoked through about 150 rounds this afternoon. We recently moved some cattle from a pasture that is only about a mile from our house and it's now very convenient to get some quick practice without spooking the stupid heifers. (maybe I already mentioned that) Anyway I need to setup a better target system and get some steel plates hung. Just more cardboard today. This was at 10-12 yards and 15 shots about as fast as I could 'aim' and shoot. Around 5 seconds? I rarely shoot in 'turbo' mode but thought it was okay. Had the target and myself both been moving like a rabid pit bull I might not have even hit the box... ![[Linked Image from hosting.photobucket.com]](https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/e78/montanasam/20240312_144837.jpg)
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If you can stomach a plastic gun that Echelon is okay, and it's about like Glock money, under $600 for non-threaded and basic sights.
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Good shooting, are you practicing from the holster/concealment? Shooting steel is a gas but watch out for frag at pistol range and wear your safety specs and a level 3 kevlar jock.
mike r
Don't wish it were easier
Wish you were better
Stab them in the taint, you can't put a tourniquet on that.
Craig Douglas ECQC
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Mike, no, I am not practicing from concealment, this was just typical target practice.
I'm a little paranoid about close range steel, thinking 15 yards and out.
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Campfire Kahuna
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These premises insured by a Sheltie in Training ,--- and Cooey.o
"May the Good Lord take a likin' to you"
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No, maybe get a couple next week Richard.
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Campfire Kahuna
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Where do you buy bulls Sam?
These premises insured by a Sheltie in Training ,--- and Cooey.o
"May the Good Lord take a likin' to you"
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Mike, no, I am not practicing from concealment, this was just typical target practice.
I'm a little paranoid about close range steel, thinking 15 yards and out. Paranoia is under rated. I use frangible ammo at <25 yards. Presentation and 1st shot time/accuracy w/ your EDC gun/method is a reality check. You are killing it [pun intended] keep up the good work, the world needs more good guys w/ guns. mike r
Don't wish it were easier
Wish you were better
Stab them in the taint, you can't put a tourniquet on that.
Craig Douglas ECQC
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I may want to rethink the steel idea!
Do they really make level 7 Kevlar crotch protectors?
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Holee cry holee freinds a question for the masses if you will.
I don't go to the church but if i was too what would I carry?
Of the following five choices youre choise would be?
Sig P320 AXG Legion, the comp might help with dusting evil doers.
HK VP9, it just sounds holy.
Glock 19X, it would match my Sunday khakis.
Springfield Armory Echelon, again I'm all about holiness and this thing reeks of it.
Sig P226, pretty sure it's what the 3 wise men were packin'.
There you have it, the contestants for the upcoming Sunday shoot-out.
I'm still feeding cow freinds but will get back to you with the results later today. If I was to take 9 I think I would make it in two successive digits....
-OMotS
"If memory serves fails me..."
Quote: ( unnamed) "been prtty deep in the cooler todaay "
Television and radio are most effective when people question little and think even less.
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I may want to rethink the steel idea!
Do they really make level 7 Kevlar crotch protectors? If you can ride a horse or a tractor all day you won't need one. mike r
Don't wish it were easier
Wish you were better
Stab them in the taint, you can't put a tourniquet on that.
Craig Douglas ECQC
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The pastor gave me permission to carry and a few weeks later revoked the permission.
PJ Why even ask? In some states, it is illegal and a felony to carry in a church without the pasters permission. I do believe I would tell that pastor to go to hell, if he had an issue with somebody carrying I agree... and disagree. The right people absolutely 100% should be packing. With that said, there are plenty of dumb azz Dirty Harry wannabes that I wouldn't want opening up in a church full of people. A pastor shouldn't have any problem with people getting shot as long as it is the right people being shot. Church security should be an organized effort by folks with the right mindset and training. In other states you are required to carry in Church.
-OMotS
"If memory serves fails me..."
Quote: ( unnamed) "been prtty deep in the cooler todaay "
Television and radio are most effective when people question little and think even less.
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