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One of my buddies who is a believer is a veterinarian and one of his best friends is a leading hand surgeon in the Sacramento area. He told my friend that he has studied the human hand for over 40 years and there is no way that it is a result of evolution. He said just the human hand is absolute proof of intelligent design. I think pretty much anybody that would look at their own hand right now and make a fist or just move their fingers would agree…

I have experienced the Grace of God three times in my life.

What’s he say about the panda’s thumb?

I believe so.

For those who answered my question.

If god did create all the planets then did god also create any aliens who might inhabit them?

Now that's an interesting question. I wonder whether aliens, if they exist, failed God and God sent an alien Jesus to pay for their sins? I hope there aren't alien priests who abused alien children going to alien churches and God also failed to intervene.

The "Gods" of all the "holy books" are quite easily recognized as fantasy by those who have decent critical thinking skills. Those who do believe are just tribal and want to stay with the tribe. They don't believe because there's solid evidence, they believe because their tribe believes and that's what they feel they should do. The "god" of the bible is about as real as Zeus.

Just wait until those stars start falling from the heavens, like it says in the Bible.

Well that must mean he would have created aliens if they exist. I suppose he set them up to fail as well, just like humans did. Now if there are aliens, there's probably lots of aliens on different planets, so I wonder if they have all sinned as well? Imagine millions of alien planets and millions of alien children and millions of alien priests abusing them, and God failing to act in each case? Or perhaps God learnt by his mistakes with earth? What if the alien planets preceded earth?

Probably assign it to the same intelligent design/designer

Then I would say your friend of a friend is kind of an idiot.

I believe.

Pretty damn effing lousy at it too, but I still believe.

The last thing I am, is tribal......

If there is indeed some kind of deity...I cannot believe He pays any attention or has any effect whatsoever to the affairs of mere mankind.
If this God were a loving and kind deity, and if he had any influence over mankind...how could he condone the atrocities of ethnic and political cleansing that has taken place in history? How could he condone the ravages of disease and starvation worldwide? And my personal pet peeve, how could a kind and compassionate deity witness the agony of a pediatric ward, where many of the most innocent literally suffer a hell on earth? Daily.
Old testament describes God as vengeful...New Testament describes God as loving, hmm. I guess I'm in the group that might say, if there is a deity, he hasn't given any indication that he cares what happens on this planet.

A little more specific, apparently God gave us free will and we must use that free will to believe and worship him or burn in everlasting hell.

But he also created parasite, bacteria, virus and genetic diseases that can kill an infant (after an insane amount of suffering) before that infant even has the language skills and understanding to make a choice to follow the Christian God or not. So after a brief life of horrible suffering, these babies are then sent to everlasting torment in the fires of hell.

Yeah, chief hand surgeon at a major hospital in the capital of California, a real moron lol

Yes, but you are all forgetting the huge number of people whose lives have been improved after they have started to believe in God. Just like the huge number of people who take a placebo and believe in it, and their lives improve. And there are a lot of weak people out there who need to believe that there's a fatherly figure up in the sky looking after them, and they need to believe that there is no finality when they die.

And yet the first words from the mouth of any parent here in a quiet moment if their child was very sick would begin with Please God.

And when the child dies, "Why, God?" then after they tell all their friends who are trying to decide whether to believe or not, the friends think "Why God?