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Thanks for the reply. If you'll back off the bitterness just a touch we have something to talk about.
The starting at the bottom and working your way up - I'm still seeing that or saw that. I was a programmer/analyst, liked what I did and didn't want to go into management, but I saw guys half my age - Gen X and Millennials - start out with the company and proceed upward. Maybe the lack of upward mobility doesn't exist in some other fields, I don't know.
The population has indeed risen a lot, it was 220 million when I joined the work force, today it's 342 million. More people competing for the same resources drives up prices. Is that the direct fault of one age group?
A programmer in 1970 might make $12,000, a nice house might cost $25,000. The 1970's saw huge "stagflation" - slow economic growth, high unemployment along with high rates of inflation. That same programmer in 1980 might make 2 1/2 times as much, $30,000, but was looking at the same house costing $100,000, four times as much, with a 16% mortgage to boot. People trying to buy houses in the early 2000's saw prices rise dramatically almost month by month, right up until they fell.
People starting out have always had it hard. I had five separate jobs go out from under me over the first 20 years of my career - two companies went out of business, two moved away and one was bought by a large national corporation who promptly fired all of us and replaced us with their people. I had to find work at new companies about every four years on average. In 1990 that new work didn't come quickly enough so my house was foreclosed by the bank. Not crying woe is me, that's just the way my life's cookie crumbled. Others have gone through much worse.
My Gen Z grandnephew is just now graduating a 4 year apprenticeship as an Electrician. He has high hopes for his future and wants to open his own business. His older brother just got out of prison. I recently had a conversation with a young man working the counter at a sandwich shop, he is graduating from Boise State this year with a degree in Civil Engineering and chose that field because of the many opportunities and good pay.
I don't lack empathy or compassion for younger folks, times are indeed hard right now, but they've been hard before and they will be again. What I have seen through Gen X, Y and now Z is that some folks choose paths that make it less hard. If someone wants to feel better by saying your hardship was only a 4 and mine is a 7 so you suck and I hate you, well, go for it. If it feels bleaker and more hopeless than ever before, 1) no one in history has ever personally experienced the entirety of ever before and 2) that could very rightfully be blamed on folks setting unrealistic expectations of what life is really like.
Bottom line is, life sucks and then you die. Or not, at least the life sucks part. That seems arrogant and insulting, but it's true and always has been. It sucked more for some folks - Mongol invasion, the Black Death, Auschwitz and Dachau - and it sucked less for others. But another truism in life is that one's attitude shapes one's experiences. If someone thinks they're screwed, they definitely are. If not, there's hope and a very real probability that things get better. That also sounds trite and dismissive, but I'm afraid it's about all this boomer has really learned in life and all he can offer.
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Are all the boomers dead yet?
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The folks that rely on SS would not have saved the money on their own.
They just wouldn't have done it. That’s probably true. It is absolutely true. And a significant percent of the population does not have a bank account and therefore have not one penny in the bank or anywhere else. I'm not sure how they handle receiving their payments. Maybe some kind of card.
Patriotism (and religion) is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
Jesus: "Take heed that no man deceive you."
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We are way off track. This thread is about Boomers walking around with a stick up their azz therefore souring their last handful of turns around the sun.
Really it's an important PSA. Pffftttttt, We can stroke this thread for days…You never stated any rules. True. You Boomers use your age to justify everything. That, I can't wait for. Another PSA: If you plan on doing much stroking, don't forget to take the blue pill at least an hour ahead of time.
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I refuse to let the, "Boomers?, youth, and lack of experience be an issue in this thread. Buddy, you are so out of your depth on any discussion that even brushes against an intelligent point of view. You need to keep your floaties on and stay in the shallow end of the pool. For your own good.
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The folks that rely on SS would not have saved the money on their own.
They just wouldn't have done it. You are likely correct. Pre SS people people got by. Possibly, But the average life expectancy back in 1940 was about 60 Not an apples to apples comparison. pre wwii a lot more americans lived on family farms. keep the old folks around, add more water to the soup, keep going. plant a bigger garden, can more food. nowdays, can't imagine how this country would survive a great depression, almost no one lives on farm. most farmers go to the grocery store. pre SS people lived in a different world in america. not sure what happened in big cities in great depression? soup kitchens? relief work? wpa?
...Actually Sycamore, you are sort of right....
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The folks that rely on SS would not have saved the money on their own.
They just wouldn't have done it. You are likely correct. Pre SS people people got by. Possibly, But the average life expectancy back in 1940 was about 60 Not an apples to apples comparison. pre wwii a lot more americans lived on family farms. keep the old folks around, add more water to the soup, keep going. plant a bigger garden, can more food. nowdays, can't imagine how this country would survive a great depression, almost no one lives on farm. most farmers go to the grocery store. pre SS people lived in a different world in america. not sure what happened in big cities in great depression? soup kitchens? relief work? wpa? It would be an epic collapse. I think it is coming. I'm worried because I do live on a farm. Hope I own enough bullets.
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The folks that rely on SS would not have saved the money on their own.
They just wouldn't have done it. You are likely correct. Pre SS people people got by. Possibly, But the average life expectancy back in 1940 was about 60 Not an apples to apples comparison. pre wwii a lot more americans lived on family farms. keep the old folks around, add more water to the soup, keep going. plant a bigger garden, can more food. nowdays, can't imagine how this country would survive a great depression, almost no one lives on farm. most farmers go to the grocery store. pre SS people lived in a different world in america. not sure what happened in big cities in great depression? soup kitchens? relief work? wpa? Back then you relied on your kids to take care of you when you got old. Good luck with that now. The selfish, lazy, arrogant, worthless little pricks gonna let you starve. Haaahaaahaahaahaa !
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Anyone else notice that Batard fella who rides his bike in the highway? Talk about entitled !
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The folks that rely on SS would not have saved the money on their own.
They just wouldn't have done it. That’s probably true. It is absolutely true. And a significant percent of the population does not have a bank account and therefore have not one penny in the bank or anywhere else. I'm not sure how they handle receiving their payments. Maybe some kind of card. A friends wife works in SS, years ago she told me some stats on a survey they did. I don't remember the exact number but the majority of AA's are broke-$ within ten days. Many are broke in 2-3 days.
PRESIDENT TRUMP 2024/2028 !!!!!!!!!!
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Hahahaha!
Just a victim of the system.....
Would you boomers give back some or all of your entitlements to help save the country? You are a dumb [bleep]! That is for sure.
A 380 in my pocket is better than a 45 in my truck!
Violence may not be the best option... but it's still an option.
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The younger ones complaining about boomers need to figure it out that SS is not an entitlement. You have been brain washed by government. SS would have been solvent for years to come if congress had not raid the funds by people you voted into office.
All those bitching about boomers are going to realize some day, they will be there themselves.
I guess I am a pre boomer, but I never took a penny from unemployment insurance, never was laid off or fired, I am debt free, I have enough saved for retirement. Today,s generation usually have nothing saved, don't plan on any retirement have to have all the the electric gadgets and can't even figure out what gender they are.
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Hahahaha!
Just a victim of the system.....
Would you boomers give back some or all of your entitlements to help save the country? You are a dumb [bleep]! That is for sure. So another one in the "no" column. We kinda figured.
I am MAGA.
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I can't believe this thread is still Booming.......
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Trump Won!, Sandmann Won!, Rittenhouse Won!, Suck it Liberal Fuuktards.
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It's a Boomer-ang.
It keeps come back around.
I am MAGA.
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I can't believe this thread is still Booming....... It's more like a millennial circle jerk.
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It must be an age thing.
Apparently even the X'ers become insufferable over time.
I am MAGA.
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Conrad hates SS but loves his .gov farm subsidies.
Ohh the hypocrisy.
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