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Atheists/Satanists always bitch about Christian Holidays & want to eliminate celebration of Christmas & Easter in the US and the entire planet
Their biggest complaint is "They" don't have a Holiday
yes they do ...
The biggest Holiday of all ! celebrated by the entire world, regardless of religious affiliation
April 1st
April Fools Day is a designated Atheist Holiday
Psalm 14 KJV
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good. Atheists are Satanists?
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The probability of the universe existing, the probability of it existing and being so vast, whether by the hand of God or not by the hand of God, is so low that it is close to zero. It is just unbelievable that existence exists - no matter how it came about. Yet we know it does exist. The probability argument and the vastness argument therefore does not swing things in favor of "no god", in fact it swings things in favor of "god". If on the balance of probabilities that god exists, then which god? No one has come up with a better explanation of what constitutes god that what we have in the West. You can't determine the probability. There may well be infinite universes (multiverses) if which case life is then inevitable. God is just a pacifier placeholder for the superstitious and solves nothing - you can"t solve a mystery with another mystery. The probability of the universe existing is 100%. If you buy a ticket in USA Power Lotto, the chance of winning is one in many million perhaps when you buy the ticket. The fact that you may win, doesn't mean there was a 100% chance of you winning before you have won. The fact that the universe does ultimately exist because of the hand of God or because of something else, doesn't mean that there was 100% probability that it would exist, unless you can find irrefutable evidence that it was always going to be created or always existed, with no possibility of an alternate outcome. You have insufficient data to calculate the probability of our universe existing. You have no substantiation of there only being two options that you list - the guess fest would be an infinite free for all. Creation alone has many versions - none make sense, none have supporting evidence and they all use magic.
Whatever you said...everyone knows you are a lying jerk. That's a bold assertion. Point out where you think I lied. Well?
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Like moths to a flame, like flies to sticky strips, like hungry rodents - - - - the atheists, God deniers, Christian-baiters, devil reps and angry others seem to scramble onto threads like this. And, for what reason? Dang! Lots or name calling here. Fine example of some moral standards to follow? The title of this thread asks a question, one that all can answer. The believers are just as drawn to this as the non-believers, probably more so. Seems that you all take offense to the fact that others don’t share your beliefs in a super natural being. CCCCCC is just like a believer moth with Karen tendencies - it's his flame and everyone else should stay away from it. LOL!!! Ooops - you made up a message. It might be funny if it weren't so grossly wrong. Please know that you and your ilk are sincerely welcomed to the flame, the sticky strips, the bait - whatever your yearning. You misstate the point and avoid the key question. You always arrive. The key question is why - the reason. The question was answered, and your Karen highschool drama tactics are inert and futile.
Whatever you said...everyone knows you are a lying jerk. That's a bold assertion. Point out where you think I lied. Well?
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The probability of the universe existing, the probability of it existing and being so vast, whether by the hand of God or not by the hand of God, is so low that it is close to zero. It is just unbelievable that existence exists - no matter how it came about. Yet we know it does exist. The probability argument and the vastness argument therefore does not swing things in favor of "no god", in fact it swings things in favor of "god". If on the balance of probabilities that god exists, then which god? No one has come up with a better explanation of what constitutes god that what we have in the West. You can't determine the probability. There may well be infinite universes (multiverses) if which case life is then inevitable. God is just a pacifier placeholder for the superstitious and solves nothing - you can"t solve a mystery with another mystery. The probability of the universe existing is 100%. If you buy a ticket in USA Power Lotto, the chance of winning is one in many million perhaps when you buy the ticket. The fact that you may win, doesn't mean there was a 100% chance of you winning before you have won. The fact that the universe does ultimately exist because of the hand of God or because of something else, doesn't mean that there was 100% probability that it would exist, unless you can find irrefutable evidence that it was always going to be created or always existed, with no possibility of an alternate outcome. You have insufficient data to calculate the probability of our universe existing. You have no substantiation of there only being two options that you list - the guess fest would be an infinite free for all. Creation alone has many versions - none make sense, none have supporting evidence and they all use magic. The atheist model, results in a situation that is currently taking place in your country. People turn away from God, have no moral compass, sodomy is rife, abortion is rife for those few remaining people who have heterosexual relationships, unmarried mothers are rife resulting in a huge proportion of uneducated, unintelligent delinquents. Because of the low birthrate caused by rife sodomy, and some of the other factors I mentioned, the society that you knew as a young man has been replaced by a completely different society comprised of Indians, Asians, Middle Eastern and black African people. So the atheist model does not result in a better outcome at all.
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It's certainly a testament ta God's power, that the mere discussion of His works can instill such incredible fear in so many.
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There is no 'atheist model.' There is politics and ideology, The far left, the far right and those who fall somewhere between.
Believing in God is no guarantee of good behaviour, far from it in fact.
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It's certainly a testament ta God's power, that the mere discussion of His works can instill such incredible fear in so many. Fear? Who is showing fear? Christians may fear hell and damnation, but an atheist cannot fear gods that don't exist.
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There is no 'atheist model.' There is politics and ideology, The far left, the far right and those who fall somewhere between.
Believing in God is no guarantee of good behaviour, far from it in fact. You can substitute "model" with "outcome" if you would prefer.
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The probability of the universe existing, the probability of it existing and being so vast, whether by the hand of God or not by the hand of God, is so low that it is close to zero. It is just unbelievable that existence exists - no matter how it came about. Yet we know it does exist. The probability argument and the vastness argument therefore does not swing things in favor of "no god", in fact it swings things in favor of "god". If on the balance of probabilities that god exists, then which god? No one has come up with a better explanation of what constitutes god that what we have in the West. You can't determine the probability. There may well be infinite universes (multiverses) if which case life is then inevitable. God is just a pacifier placeholder for the superstitious and solves nothing - you can"t solve a mystery with another mystery. The probability of the universe existing is 100%. If you buy a ticket in USA Power Lotto, the chance of winning is one in many million perhaps when you buy the ticket. The fact that you may win, doesn't mean there was a 100% chance of you winning before you have won. The fact that the universe does ultimately exist because of the hand of God or because of something else, doesn't mean that there was 100% probability that it would exist, unless you can find irrefutable evidence that it was always going to be created or always existed, with no possibility of an alternate outcome. You have insufficient data to calculate the probability of our universe existing. You have no substantiation of there only being two options that you list - the guess fest would be an infinite free for all. Creation alone has many versions - none make sense, none have supporting evidence and they all use magic. The atheist model, results in a situation that is currently taking place in your country. People turn away from God, have no moral compass, sodomy is rife, abortion is rife for those few remaining people who have heterosexual relationships, unmarried mothers are rife resulting in a huge proportion of uneducated, unintelligent delinquents. Because of the low birthrate caused by rife sodomy, and some of the other factors I mentioned, the society that you knew as a young man has been replaced by a completely different society comprised of Indians, Asians, Middle Eastern and black African people. So the atheist model does not result in a better outcome at all. Data shows that secular societies generally do better añd have greater life satisfaction. Being free of the objective immoralities of the various religous doctrines is a big plus, and is one of the reasons why your constitution was written to ensure a secular government. Your country has too many Christian zeolots that seem to be driving many of the problems that you have over there.
Whatever you said...everyone knows you are a lying jerk. That's a bold assertion. Point out where you think I lied. Well?
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Like moths to a flame, like flies to sticky strips, like hungry rodents - - - - the atheists, God deniers, Christian-baiters, devil reps and angry others seem to scramble onto threads like this. And, for what reason? Dang! Lots or name calling here. Fine example of some moral standards to follow? The title of this thread asks a question, one that all can answer. The believers are just as drawn to this as the non-believers, probably more so. Seems that you all take offense to the fact that others don’t share your beliefs in a super natural being. CCCCCC is just like a believer moth with Karen tendencies - it's his flame and everyone else should stay away from it. LOL!!! Ooops - you made up a message. It might be funny if it weren't so grossly wrong. Please know that you and your ilk are sincerely welcomed to the flame, the sticky strips, the bait - whatever your yearning. You misstate the point and avoid the key question. You always arrive. The key question is why - the reason. The question was answered, and your Karen highschool drama tactics are inert and futile. More blah, blah, blah - ad hominem attack but nothing substantive for the reason, the driver. So, go ahead - break ranks - spout out the real reason. The catharsis might enable you to feel better - relief at last. C'mon - you can do it>
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It's certainly a testament ta God's power, that the mere discussion of His works can instill such incredible fear in so many. Fear? Who is showing fear? Christians may fear hell and damnation, but an atheist cannot fear gods that don't exist. The wicked flee, when no one pursues..... LOL
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The probability of the universe existing, the probability of it existing and being so vast, whether by the hand of God or not by the hand of God, is so low that it is close to zero. It is just unbelievable that existence exists - no matter how it came about. Yet we know it does exist. The probability argument and the vastness argument therefore does not swing things in favor of "no god", in fact it swings things in favor of "god". If on the balance of probabilities that god exists, then which god? No one has come up with a better explanation of what constitutes god that what we have in the West. You can't determine the probability. There may well be infinite universes (multiverses) if which case life is then inevitable. God is just a pacifier placeholder for the superstitious and solves nothing - you can"t solve a mystery with another mystery. The probability of the universe existing is 100%. If you buy a ticket in USA Power Lotto, the chance of winning is one in many million perhaps when you buy the ticket. The fact that you may win, doesn't mean there was a 100% chance of you winning before you have won. The fact that the universe does ultimately exist because of the hand of God or because of something else, doesn't mean that there was 100% probability that it would exist, unless you can find irrefutable evidence that it was always going to be created or always existed, with no possibility of an alternate outcome. You have insufficient data to calculate the probability of our universe existing. You have no substantiation of there only being two options that you list - the guess fest would be an infinite free for all. Creation alone has many versions - none make sense, none have supporting evidence and they all use magic. The atheist model, results in a situation that is currently taking place in your country. People turn away from God, have no moral compass, sodomy is rife, abortion is rife for those few remaining people who have heterosexual relationships, unmarried mothers are rife resulting in a huge proportion of uneducated, unintelligent delinquents. Because of the low birthrate caused by rife sodomy, and some of the other factors I mentioned, the society that you knew as a young man has been replaced by a completely different society comprised of Indians, Asians, Middle Eastern and black African people. So the atheist model does not result in a better outcome at all. Data shows that secular societies generally do better añd have greater life satisfaction. Being free of the objective immoralities of the various religous doctrines is a big plus, and is one of the reasons why your constitution was written to ensure a secular government. Your country has too many Christian zeolots that seem to be driving many of the problems that you have over there. But your society has self-destructed! It does not exist anymore. What has replaced it are people who worship the Hindu god Visnu, Muslems etc
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Like moths to a flame, like flies to sticky strips, like hungry rodents - - - - the atheists, God deniers, Christian-baiters, devil reps and angry others seem to scramble onto threads like this. And, for what reason? Dang! Lots or name calling here. Fine example of some moral standards to follow? The title of this thread asks a question, one that all can answer. The believers are just as drawn to this as the non-believers, probably more so. Seems that you all take offense to the fact that others don’t share your beliefs in a super natural being. CCCCCC is just like a believer moth with Karen tendencies - it's his flame and everyone else should stay away from it. LOL!!! Ooops - you made up a message. It might be funny if it weren't so grossly wrong. Please know that you and your ilk are sincerely welcomed to the flame, the sticky strips, the bait - whatever your yearning. You misstate the point and avoid the key question. You always arrive. The key question is why - the reason. The question was answered, and your Karen highschool drama tactics are inert and futile. More blah, blah, blah - ad hominem attack but nothing substantive for the reason, the driver. So, go ahead - break ranks - spout out the real reason. The catharsis might enable you to feel better - relief at last. C'mon - you can do it> The question was answered - now go back to your dunce corner and re-read this thread for enlightenment.
Whatever you said...everyone knows you are a lying jerk. That's a bold assertion. Point out where you think I lied. Well?
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Like moths to a flame, like flies to sticky strips, like hungry rodents - - - - the atheists, God deniers, Christian-baiters, devil reps and angry others seem to scramble onto threads like this. And, for what reason? Dang! Lots or name calling here. Fine example of some moral standards to follow? The title of this thread asks a question, one that all can answer. The believers are just as drawn to this as the non-believers, probably more so. Seems that you all take offense to the fact that others don’t share your beliefs in a super natural being. CCCCCC is just like a believer moth with Karen tendencies - it's his flame and everyone else should stay away from it. LOL!!! Ooops - you made up a message. It might be funny if it weren't so grossly wrong. Please know that you and your ilk are sincerely welcomed to the flame, the sticky strips, the bait - whatever your yearning. You misstate the point and avoid the key question. You always arrive. The key question is why - the reason. The question was answered, and your Karen highschool drama tactics are inert and futile. More blah, blah, blah - ad hominem attack but nothing substantive for the reason, the driver. So, go ahead - break ranks - spout out the real reason. The catharsis might enable you to feel better - relief at last. C'mon - you can do it> The question was answered - now go back to your dunce corner and re-read this thread for enlightenment. Hey Mauser, why don't you stop feeding the troll? He thrives on people responding to his baiting.
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I think everyone on this thread should ignore the troll called See-See-See-But-Don't-See. His posts are deliberately provocative, he tries to bait quite a few people on this thread, he posts crap on lots of different threads but never says anything of value. Just ignore his posts and don't respond, that's what I do. Another vapid pronouncement by the embarrassed pretender - the one who says he can chastise God, name God as "disgusting", tell God what He should do, and tell God who should be given entry to Heaven. All posted by this same delusional dude in this very thread. If he is so powerful and important, one would think he would simply command and accomplish what he thinks should be done. Waiting to witness the power of the superior human.
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The probability of the universe existing, the probability of it existing and being so vast, whether by the hand of God or not by the hand of God, is so low that it is close to zero. It is just unbelievable that existence exists - no matter how it came about. Yet we know it does exist. The probability argument and the vastness argument therefore does not swing things in favor of "no god", in fact it swings things in favor of "god". If on the balance of probabilities that god exists, then which god? No one has come up with a better explanation of what constitutes god that what we have in the West. You can't determine the probability. There may well be infinite universes (multiverses) if which case life is then inevitable. God is just a pacifier placeholder for the superstitious and solves nothing - you can"t solve a mystery with another mystery. The probability of the universe existing is 100%. If you buy a ticket in USA Power Lotto, the chance of winning is one in many million perhaps when you buy the ticket. The fact that you may win, doesn't mean there was a 100% chance of you winning before you have won. The fact that the universe does ultimately exist because of the hand of God or because of something else, doesn't mean that there was 100% probability that it would exist, unless you can find irrefutable evidence that it was always going to be created or always existed, with no possibility of an alternate outcome. You have insufficient data to calculate the probability of our universe existing. You have no substantiation of there only being two options that you list - the guess fest would be an infinite free for all. Creation alone has many versions - none make sense, none have supporting evidence and they all use magic. The atheist model, results in a situation that is currently taking place in your country. People turn away from God, have no moral compass, sodomy is rife, abortion is rife for those few remaining people who have heterosexual relationships, unmarried mothers are rife resulting in a huge proportion of uneducated, unintelligent delinquents. Because of the low birthrate caused by rife sodomy, and some of the other factors I mentioned, the society that you knew as a young man has been replaced by a completely different society comprised of Indians, Asians, Middle Eastern and black African people. So the atheist model does not result in a better outcome at all. Data shows that secular societies generally do better añd have greater life satisfaction. Being free of the objective immoralities of the various religous doctrines is a big plus, and is one of the reasons why your constitution was written to ensure a secular government. Your country has too many Christian zeolots that seem to be driving many of the problems that you have over there. But your society has self-destructed! It does not exist anymore. What has replaced it are people who worship Hindu gods Visnu, Muslems etc We have problems but our society is less sh it than yours IMHO. And, thank god, Christianity is on the decline. Any religion is destructive when it reaches critical mass and becomes self-aware.
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Like moths to a flame, like flies to sticky strips, like hungry rodents - - - - the atheists, God deniers, Christian-baiters, devil reps and angry others seem to scramble onto threads like this. And, for what reason? Dang! Lots or name calling here. Fine example of some moral standards to follow? The title of this thread asks a question, one that all can answer. The believers are just as drawn to this as the non-believers, probably more so. Seems that you all take offense to the fact that others don’t share your beliefs in a super natural being. CCCCCC is just like a believer moth with Karen tendencies - it's his flame and everyone else should stay away from it. LOL!!! Ooops - you made up a message. It might be funny if it weren't so grossly wrong. Please know that you and your ilk are sincerely welcomed to the flame, the sticky strips, the bait - whatever your yearning. You misstate the point and avoid the key question. You always arrive. The key question is why - the reason. The question was answered, and your Karen highschool drama tactics are inert and futile. More blah, blah, blah - ad hominem attack but nothing substantive for the reason, the driver. So, go ahead - break ranks - spout out the real reason. The catharsis might enable you to feel better - relief at last. C'mon - you can do it> The question was answered - now go back to your dunce corner and re-read this thread for enlightenment. Hey Mauser, why don't you stop feeding the troll? He thrives on people responding to his baiting. It's fun shutting him down.
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The probability of the universe existing, the probability of it existing and being so vast, whether by the hand of God or not by the hand of God, is so low that it is close to zero. It is just unbelievable that existence exists - no matter how it came about. Yet we know it does exist. The probability argument and the vastness argument therefore does not swing things in favor of "no god", in fact it swings things in favor of "god". If on the balance of probabilities that god exists, then which god? No one has come up with a better explanation of what constitutes god that what we have in the West. You can't determine the probability. There may well be infinite universes (multiverses) if which case life is then inevitable. God is just a pacifier placeholder for the superstitious and solves nothing - you can"t solve a mystery with another mystery. The probability of the universe existing is 100%. If you buy a ticket in USA Power Lotto, the chance of winning is one in many million perhaps when you buy the ticket. The fact that you may win, doesn't mean there was a 100% chance of you winning before you have won. The fact that the universe does ultimately exist because of the hand of God or because of something else, doesn't mean that there was 100% probability that it would exist, unless you can find irrefutable evidence that it was always going to be created or always existed, with no possibility of an alternate outcome. You have insufficient data to calculate the probability of our universe existing. You have no substantiation of there only being two options that you list - the guess fest would be an infinite free for all. Creation alone has many versions - none make sense, none have supporting evidence and they all use magic. The atheist model, results in a situation that is currently taking place in your country. People turn away from God, have no moral compass, sodomy is rife, abortion is rife for those few remaining people who have heterosexual relationships, unmarried mothers are rife resulting in a huge proportion of uneducated, unintelligent delinquents. Because of the low birthrate caused by rife sodomy, and some of the other factors I mentioned, the society that you knew as a young man has been replaced by a completely different society comprised of Indians, Asians, Middle Eastern and black African people. So the atheist model does not result in a better outcome at all. Data shows that secular societies generally do better añd have greater life satisfaction. Being free of the objective immoralities of the various religous doctrines is a big plus, and is one of the reasons why your constitution was written to ensure a secular government. Your country has too many Christian zeolots that seem to be driving many of the problems that you have over there. But your society has self-destructed! It does not exist anymore. What has replaced it are people who worship Hindu gods Visnu, Muslems etc You have lived in Australia?
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