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Atheists are unconvinced that there is a god/s, and generally are skeptical and critical thinkers, and open minded.

If you knew that Christianity was true, would you become a follower of Jesus…?

No I wouldn't. The god described in the bible is a total cunt.

You’ve now clearly pointed out what has been known by many here all along. Your position has zero to do with truth and logic and reason, or science ~ despite your many assertions (recent and past) to the contrary. Your position is clearly a matter of the heart.

Your position also clearly has zero to do with critical thinking and/or being open-minded.

Someone who would admittedly flat-out deny something to be true that they know to be true is hardly a beacon of rational thought or logical reasoning.

If you choose to participate in the New Covenant that Jesus established (and He’s invited you to do so), and if you choose to have a personal relationship with your Creator (and He’s invited you to do so), and if you choose to follow Jesus’ teachings (and He’s invited you to do so), then your life will be better, and you will be better at life.

Tell that to the parents who just lost a child to cancer or an accident and you are liable to get your azz beat.

Not unless those parents have been taught by idiots to believe that God is responsible for every good or bad thing that happens.

To clearly answer the question from the OP: Yes, I believe in the triune God: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

Throughout history there has only ever been one "stairway to heaven:" The Son of Man, Jesus Christ. This was true even before Christ's incarnation, birth, crucifixion, and resurrection and continues to be true today as well. [Job 19:25] Scripture records a "great cloud of witnesses" professing this same truth throughout history. [Heb 12:1]

Prior to Christ's incarnation, God acted to steward the nation of Israel so that it would bring forth Christ exactly as foretold "so that Scripture might be fulfilled." The Old Covenant, along with His rod, was largely established to keep the nation separate from the world and close to Himself. While God did not change, once Christ came into his glory, the Old Covenant was fulfilled and the New Covenant, which had always existed, became manifest. No one, before or after Christ, was saved by keeping the Law.

Since the fall, there has always been misery in the world, corruption in the church [Jer 23:1-2], and abuse of children [Ex 1:15ff]. There is nothing new under the sun. I believe there is also hope even among those killed by Herod/Pharaoh, those sacrificed to Molech, and those aborted in our day. This hope is centered on Christ and conveyed even to the unborn by the Holy Spirit. In this matter, I do not place limits on God.

In this thread, the faithful have made their confession (each in their own fallible way), are shaking the dust from their cloaks, and are departing the conversation. Be not concerned that what remains is dominated by mockery. [Acts 18:6; Ezk 33:1-6; 2 Kgs 19:14-16] Broad is the road... And yet, their end has not yet come. There is still time. Consider the conversion of St. Augustine.

The crux of the disagreement is clearly set forth in 1 Cor 15:14-19. Has Christ been raised from the dead? If not, we Christians are most to be pitied. It's no wonder that Easter, less than two weeks from now, is our highest festival.

This I believe, Lord help my unbelief. Thanks for giving me the opportunity to sound the trumpet.

Just don't let any of the kids be alone with any of the adults.

We don’t need your advice on how to run our Easter celebration. It is a long running and successful tradition. Oh yeah, our bible study class was pretty crowded tonight. Now go run to your safe space.

There is a bit of a problem here. There are untold billions and billions of humans that were born and died on this earth that had absolutely no way of knowing about Jesus or the nation of Israel. Are they condemned to death or hell whichever it may be?

It makes me wonder if there might be such a thing as reincarnation. A just God would not condemn his child for ignorance over which the child had no control. Would he?

Otherwise there are those billions of souls that are condemned without ever having a chance. It's a problem.

Willihunter, just giving you some good advice. Pedophiles infiltrate all of the organized activities that people take their children to, including church activities. You run your Easter celebration the way you think fit, but always beware of pedophiles. Glad that your Bible study classes are a success.

Hastings, I dealt with this issue early on in this thread. I explained that it should be suggested to God that this point be addressed as it is unreasonable that good people don't go to heaven/or get a chance to go to heaven in the situations you described.

I am not going to put myself in the position of telling our supernatural creator how to handle his business but I think there is way more to getting right with God than some scholars of the by grace system would have us believe.

There are too many unanswered questions in that system. For instance the babies and toddlers that were destroyed at Sodom, at Jericho, at Ai, and during the purge of the tribe of Dan, did they receive eternal death or damnation or do they get another bite at the apple.

Jesus inferred that there was such a thing as reincarnation and from the sources I read belief in reincarnation was very much a thing in the early Christian church.

Christians,

Please compare and contrast this:


With this:


Which one seems more "Christian".

Who would you rather have a beer with?

Nope..... If I am presented with something that is clearly artfully and skillfully crafted, I may not HOW it was crafted, but I will know THAT it was crafted.

You are just trying to re-package the "something from nothing" baloney.

Antelope_Wounder, what can you tell? Did I say something untrue? I would rather have a Jack Daniels (not a beer) with the second person. Obviously he is more knowledgeable, interesting and intelligent than the first. That doesn't mean that I don't think Antlers is a fine, good person. It's just of the two, I would prefer the second. You asked a question and were given an honest answer. Actually, come to think about it, you've been a bit horrible with your posts involving me lately. I think you should retract some of the comments you've made and apologize.

Antelope_Wounder, you've really made a fool of yourself with this post. Unbeknown to you, the person who made the second quote was not Riflehunter, but none other than Albert Einstein (the person that you wouldn't want to have a beer with!!).

Antelope_Wounder, you've really made a fool of yourself with this post. Unbeknown to you, the person who made the second quote was not Riflehunter, but none other than Albert Einstein (the person that you wouldn't want to have a beer with!!).

You know no such thing.

You can't seem to able to tell the difference between faith and its assumption of truth and actual knowledge.

Plus you keep invoking the strawman 'something from nothing' no matter how many time it's pointed out that I made no such claim.

Instead of making your own special rules, read what is said before responding emotionally.

Back to third grade reading comprehension for you….. Let me dumb it down for you…..try to follow closely….

Your doorbell rings and there is a package delivered….. you open it and find a small black sphere that some how plays Waltzing Matilda over and over again…. It won’t stop playing….you can’t turn it off….there are no switches, it just keeps on playing. You don’t know why or how does this….it just keeps on doing it.

You may conclude that this black sphere exists…..you do not know who sent it to you, but here it is, playing the tune over and over again…You don’t know HOW it works, but you know THAT it works ….because it is sitting RIGHT THERE in front of you playing that song. You don’t even know WHY it works.

Further….if you really think hard, you realize that someone made it and then even sent it to you. Hmm…. Someone made something, knew you and sent it to you. You might even say “Remarkable.”