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I understand how this could be used against the anti-gun crowd, but I wasn't aware that our constitution protects non-citizens too. Especially those here illegally. What part of illegal does this judge not understand?

Where was my father's constitutional protection when his name was "Americanized" at Ellis Island?

All I know is that in every country that the USAF sent me to we had a "new comer's briefing" and the first thing they would tell us is that, "You are now in _ _ _ _ and are subject to their laws. You have NO RIGHTS here, so be careful of what you say and do."

From:
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg...13/pdf/USCOURTS-ilnd-1_20-cr-00613-2.pdf

"Conclusion
The noncitizen possession statute, 18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(5), violates the Second Amendment as
applied to Carbajal-Flores. Thus, the Court grants Carbajal-Flores’ motion to dismiss

IT IS SO ORDERED.
Date: 3/8/2024 Entered: _____________________________
SHARON JOHNSON COLEMAN
United States District Judge"


Bruce

The exposure of the Criminal DOJ such as this are necessary to show the people what traitorus pukes fill our Government and that they hate America, our Constitution and We the People.

The people are being led from Dark to Light and its working. That's why Trumps numbers are going up. We are witnessing The Great Awakening.

Trust Trump, trust the Plan and trust the Military and Buckle up buttercups, because it's going to get much more bumpy.

Things much more grevious than this must occur before we reach the precipice where the snowflakes and useful idiots have to change direction and call for Trump to step in and make that phone call.

It's Coming.

The USA.gov recognized the existence of inalienable rights in the 18th century, going so far as writing it down in a contract.

Anyone who would trust this Obama DEI appointed,tranny looking apparatchik,to do what benefits the citizens of this nation or accurately interpret the constitution,have been bamboozled.

So we need to double down on criminalizing being armed along with the claim that prohibiting the posession of arms is done to prevent actual crimes(murder as an example) while doing little to nothing to apprehend or convict the perpetrator when a crime such as murder occurs?

MM

An 18 year old can not purchase a handgun from an FFL. That does not mean he can not possess a handgun.

This I fully agree with.

I think Constitutional Carry in my state agrees with it also.

Since when did illegals, and almost all other criminals NOT have firearms?

Heads are exploding on both sides.....

i.e. "Division"... is not that the exact dream of Obongo?

Ah yep.....

Why did these illegal aliens leo's get a free pass a few years back?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/spring-break-miami-beach-covid-19-protocols-hundreds-arrested/

That seems like an absurd way to look at it.

Do you think the same about border laws? It was possible for him to get into the country illegally so why bother with border law? Murder still happens so murder laws are obviously pointless?

Border law is a form of trespassing so there is a victim and a perpetrator.

Murder has a victim and a perpetrator.

Who is the victim when the crime is firearm possession? Why do you want firearm possession(and sub categories such as rifles with flash suppressors, over 10rds mags, and similar) to be a crime?

You moved the goalposts but I knew you would.

I don't want firearm possession specifically to be a crime, I want every single thing an illegal immigrant does in this country to be a crime. They shouldn't be able to possess a gun on our soil, or a drive a car, or walk on the street, or breath our air.

You people who think this decision will somehow insulate your 2A rights against encroachment have not been paying attention.

I didn't move the goal post. Trespassing and murder both have a victim and a perpetrator.

Possessing a firearm(unless it is stolen) doesn't have a victim.

Why do you want the news to be able run the headline "gun crime" which associates firearm ownership with crime to aid the anti 2A turds and put the illegal alien up in prison for possessing a firearm for 10 years instead of just sending him back to his country of origin?

One question: Would this judge have ruled the same way if the illegal alien was Lars Helgeland, who snuk into this country on board a ship from Norway?

She set a legal precedent that if, the descendant of Norwegian immigrants, Chuck Helgeland from North Dakota is armed in Illinois the Illinois gestapo might not hassle him.