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I believe Federal had the “nyclad”.
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I think it was Mike Venturino that said years ago that manufacturers sold bevel base for ease of loading when in fact it was for ease of manufacture.
It's easier to mass produce a BB. It is harder to achieve a perfect, sharp FB.
I assume that's why they are always priced higher than BB bullets. Both points are very true. The loading point, particularly for progressive machine with automatic bullet feed. I quit using “progressive” presses when it became a synonym for “Liberal”.
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I looked at Bayou bullets. Looks like they have a 160 grain rn that looks like a flat base. Looks like the 158's are bevel base.
The owner is a good guy. He is Jerry Miculek's brother. They do make and sell good bullets
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Why so insistent on a FB? Gas blow by is least prevalent on the flat base vs beveled base
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I think it was Mike Venturino that said years ago that manufacturers sold bevel base for ease of loading when in fact it was for ease of manufacture.
It's easier to mass produce a BB. It is harder to achieve a perfect, sharp FB.
I assume that's why they are always priced higher than BB bullets. Both points are very true. The loading point, particularly for progressive machine with automatic bullet feed. I quit using “progressive” presses when it became a synonym for “Liberal”. I have not quite been able to master the time for casting....but most of what I buy is FB. The RN 45 colt bullets are not. I think they are a 667 or the like.
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I am MAGA.
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I don't consider this thread to be "hijacked" - just turned into a valid discussion.
Back when I WAS casting - I bought some bevel bases that leaded badly, when my flat based bullets didn't.
I did a minimal amount of research, and learned a bit about the bevel base and blow-by, lead deposits, etc.
Simple answer is to just use flat based lead bullets, even though they're a little more finicky to load without damage.
I've always been a curmudgeon - now I'm an old curmudgeon.
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Why so insistent on a FB? Sealing the bore. Just my opinion. Don't quote me on that. There is a word for that, but it's got a lot of syllables so I won't use it. Obturation?
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I don't consider this thread to be "hijacked" - just turned into a valid discussion.
Back when I WAS casting - I bought some bevel bases that leaded badly, when my flat based bullets didn't.
I did a minimal amount of research, and learned a bit about the bevel base and blow-by, lead deposits, etc.
Simple answer is to just use flat based lead bullets, even though they're a little more finicky to load without damage. I am gonna load some 44 mag this afternoon. FB SWC is all I load for it. 9 grains of Unique. Seem to remember that perhaps a FB has better accuracy potential?
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Ive shot literally hundreds of thousand's of bevel base cast bullets thru two of my competition revolvers without any leading problems. Obviously Im not pushing them over 850fps, might run into problems in heavier magnum velocities, but for target type shooting, you will not have any leading problems with bevel base bullets. I have been using the poly coated bullets for last several years, and I would imagine there is even less of a leading concern with them.
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