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It's a 13 minute vid and you posted your comment after only 5 minutes. Did you even watch the video? You do realize that video's been out there a while now? Posted 3/26 - go check your calendar. What's today's date? Completely inconceivable that a person's seen it before you decided to post? Yeah - I've seen it, she's full of crap. ZERO evidence that the ship is even hackable, much less that it actually happened. And as I told Stevie - the guys I know, still working at the 3 letter agency field site that I also used to work at back in the day - none think nor believe it was a cyber attack. OMG !! Teal.....................I just realized............................... you're one of THEM!..........aren't you? Nope - but some of us have actually done some things, when it comes to intelligence work and understand and have seen how it's mislabeled or misused. We have a lot of former intel people on this board, former special forces as well. I've found that people struggle with others doing things they never envision themselves doing. I admit - all my experience was from 2003-2006 but it was experience and, like I said, I still know people which means more than the cut/paste gang here simply spouting "journalists" who've produced nothing in the way of proof. You can only listen to so many stupid takes and discussions before you pull your hair out. It's like a kindergarten - eventually you wanna yell "shut up!"
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I would be more inclined to believe Lara Logan,who has established connections to the intel community and Steve Bannon, who was a Naval officer than some anonymous member. I too was a Naval intelligence NCO who spent 3 years working at an NSA field site. I did the actually collection, analysis and reporting of the intel, not just reading it and passing it along. WOC qualified and trainer qualified for intelligence as well. I too know people and I'm going with what they told me vice some random lady and Steve. Nothing against Steve. She's offered ZERO proof of the possibility much less probability. Show me how that ship was "hackable" to begin with - resulting in complete loss of power, regain power, lose power regain it and then hit the bridge. You there. Stop bringing logic and stop trying to make sense here. You're ruining this forum.
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Sounds plausible. I thought it might be just a horrible accident accidents like that are unlikely. Too much money at stake. Once again: How’s Build Back Better feel after 3+ years? We’ve been invaded by a huge army of people at the behest of the administration. We’ve spent billions if not trillions on a war we instigated in Ukraine. Out national credibility is down the drain. Our Congress is insane. Republicans in both houses cannot even agree on anything and refuse to use power at their disposal to fight back. The judicial system is corrupt and law means nothing. Our citizens are being arrested and persecuted without even being charged. Our Constitution is ignored. WAKE UP DAMMIT!!!!! What is wrong with these people? Seriously, they all need to wake the f uck up. The country is lost and some of these asses just act like its 50 years ago and all is well
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I would be more inclined to believe Lara Logan,who has established connections to the intel community and Steve Bannon, who was a Naval officer than some anonymous member. I too was a Naval intelligence NCO who spent 3 years working at an NSA field site. I did the actually collection, analysis and reporting of the intel, not just reading it and passing it along. WOC qualified and trainer qualified for intelligence as well. I too know people and I'm going with what they told me vice some random lady and Steve. Nothing against Steve. She's offered ZERO proof of the possibility much less probability. Show me how that ship was "hackable" to begin with - resulting in complete loss of power, regain power, lose power regain it and then hit the bridge. You there. Stop bringing logic and stop trying to make sense here. You're ruining this forum. The local boat guys down at the bar last night - don't see it as hackable either. Maybe you mess with a GPS or something but not the engine room, not aux and primary power. They're just not that connected to the outside - per these guys. Real? dunno but I trust the guy building the things over some tart on Steve's show.
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And my comment isnt directed at you Teal
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I know - I get it. No offense taken at all.
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Since this bridge collapsed you've been in contact with some of your former co-workers to discuss this issue.
Some of you old guys are hilarious.
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Since this bridge collapsed you've been in contact with some of your former co-workers to discuss this issue.
Some of you old guys are hilarious. I'm not old. And yes, yes I have because, you know we're friends. I know that's foreign to you but veterans, those that serve and spend time together tend to be life long friends. So on the intel side - yep, we talk. Boat wise - Fincantieri has 2 ship yards within 2 hours of me. One of them 30 mins. Lots of boat guys around, neighbors and the like. I even have an uncle that used to work on the boats back in the 90's. I live on the Great Lakes - large merchant boats are part of the culture here, an interest.
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When the Demented Bastard rushes to the microphone,to definitively claim this was just a normal accident,I have a tendency to believe just the opposite.
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When the Demented Bastard rushes to the microphone,to definitively claim this was just a normal accident,I have a tendency to believe just the opposite. 11 hours later is "rushing"?
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Laughing. Well if Lara says it, it must be true. Conspiracy theorists are having orgasms.
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When the Demented Bastard rushes to the microphone,to definitively claim this was just a normal accident,I have a tendency to believe just the opposite. 11 hours later is "rushing"? It takes time to write his script,coach this bastard and then inject him with Adderall/Ritalin to get him prepped for this public address. Are you defending him ?
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Democrat National Socialists/Communists took this right out of the movie that the Soetoro-Obammunists made. They do that. GR
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When the Demented Bastard rushes to the microphone,to definitively claim this was just a normal accident,I have a tendency to believe just the opposite. 11 hours later is "rushing"? It takes time to write his script,coach this bastard and then inject him with Adderall/Ritalin to get him prepped for this public address. Are you defending him ? FFS no but the idea he rushed to create this narrative before we'd have a chance know is ridiculous. It can't be he called it an accident too quick because we don't know AND we definitely know it was a cyber-attack at the same time. You're falling for the same problem people fell for with GW Bush. Assume he's a moron (feeble in the case of Biden) and he gets away with things due to underestimation. The left continually underestimated his intelligence and political maneuvering. Same with Trump. The Right - all too often ascribes stupidity and incompetence to the Left rather than actual evil and intent. Biden's far more there than we give him credit for and he's using the perception to his advantage at times. See the whole prosecution or not under Hur because he's "mentally deficient" but also still with a finger on the button.
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I would be more inclined to believe Lara Logan,who has established connections to the intel community and Steve Bannon, who was a Naval officer than some anonymous member. I too was a Naval intelligence NCO who spent 3 years working at an NSA field site. I did the actually collection, analysis and reporting of the intel, not just reading it and passing it along. WOC qualified and trainer qualified for intelligence as well. I too know people and I'm going with what they told me vice some random lady and Steve. Nothing against Steve. She's offered ZERO proof of the possibility much less probability. Show me how that ship was "hackable" to begin with - resulting in complete loss of power, regain power, lose power regain it and then hit the bridge. You there. Stop bringing logic and stop trying to make sense here. You're ruining this forum. The local boat guys down at the bar last night - don't see it as hackable either. Maybe you mess with a GPS or something but not the engine room, not aux and primary power. They're just not that connected to the outside - per these guys. Real? dunno but I trust the guy building the things over some tart on Steve's show. Yeah, that's pretty much my take on things. Kinda like in your industry, they may have GPS units to tell where their trucks are, and they may have them computer governed so as to not speed or over rev, but I haven't heard of a truck being hacked and driven into a fuel depot...............................yet.. Boats I've been on, never one that size though, have all sorts of electronic navigation stuff but nothing I ever saw that could take over and do all you noted to the operational parts of the vessel. The Captains I've known would never serve on a vessel that could be taken over remotely, not without some strong contract stating they are not responsible if something with that system screws up.
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men. In it is contentment In it is death and all you seek (Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
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I've always liked Laura Logan. I have no clue about how creditable her claims of it being planned are (I'm a sucker for bright articulate beautiful women so I need to factor that in when forming thoughts what I believe) However Teal and others probably have useful insight into how much a disruption to hazardous will impact us.
If this hazmat shipping is going to be a long term disruption that would lead to thinking more along the lines of maybe someone onboard caused the power disruptions?
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Of course, it’s hackable. It’s a 1000 foot, 100,000 ton ship built in 2015 with a 22 man crew. A ship that big and new with a crew small is going to be heavily computerized. If it has an internet connection, it’s hackable.
Doesn’t mean it was, but these days someone can hack you toaster.
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They attacked the West coast as well, by burning a critical overpass next to a river on the I-10 corridor in Los Angeles last year. Democrat National Socialists/Communists. GR
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She calls it "the I-94 Corridor."
Wrong corridor. She only missed it by one.lol It is the I-95 corridor. Biden only missed it by one as well, he called an "Assault Weapon" an AR14.....but he's a dementia ridden geezer.
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