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Re: To Ackley or not, that is the question Seafire #19280475 03/08/24
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DonFischer Campfire Regular D Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,088	I use what has been working for years also. I've got one wildcatt it's a 6.5x06. Have never had a AI cartridge have never seen a need for one. Speaking of fast twist and heavy bullets, I don't go that route either. If I wanted to shoot say 60 gr or heavier bullet's I would not get a 22 cal rifle. No sir, I'd get a 243. Then if I wanted to shoot heavier than 100gr bullets, I'd step up to a 25 cal rifle.

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Re: To Ackley or not, that is the question burt2506 #19280613 03/08/24
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tikkanut Campfire 'Bwana T Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 30,784 Likes: 9 Rural Utah USA	My Ackley experience has been with the 260 AI & current 223 AI (heavy p/dog 9 twist set up) First thing I'd look at is die selection 223 AI are common.....280 AI also T R U M P W O N ! U L T R A M A G A !

Re: To Ackley or not, that is the question burt2506 #19280627 03/08/24
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Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,528 Likes: 5 Paradise,Alaska	Originally Posted by burt2506 So, because I too wish to play with the cool kids, I think I would like to have a fast(er) twisted .22 for fun and games. Now , I have dies and brass for the 223.....and naturally , I also have brass ( potentially ) brass for the Ackley. I now have a set of dies for the ackley, so that's not really a consideration. My question is, those who have the Ackley 223 would you do it again? I also think the 22 Creed is a cooler option, just not what is in the cards at this time. BTW : I have the action and the 8 twist barrel..... You are an AMAZINGLY Dumb Fhuqker. Hint......... Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: To Ackley or not, that is the question burt2506 #19280638 03/08/24
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sherm_61 Campfire Regular S Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 1,981 Havre MT	Dies are easy you can get a FL sizing made for whatever you want and if you have your own reamers a seater from a blank. Ai's and Wildcats aren't for everybody I guess. Last edited by sherm_61; 03/08/24.

Re: To Ackley or not, that is the question sherm_61 #19280704 03/08/24
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tikkanut Campfire 'Bwana T Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 30,784 Likes: 9 Rural Utah USA	Originally Posted by sherm_61 Dies are easy you can get a FL sizing made for whatever you want and if you have your own reamers a seater from a blank. Ai's and Wildcats aren't for everybody I guess. Talking of economics...once you spend $200+ for dies to get up & running The benefits of an AI or Wildcat cartridge dwindle fast About 2007 when David Tubb introduced the 6XC...had to have one Built an 8 twist Pac Nor barrel screwed a Savage s/shot action on it Great LR p/dog killer on 38 grs of powder with an 87 V Max Dies were a chore at that time Yes..AI & Wildcats aren't for everyone T R U M P W O N ! U L T R A M A G A !

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Re: To Ackley or not, that is the question burt2506 #19280724 03/08/24
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Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,528 Likes: 5 Paradise,Alaska	Brokedick Stories from CLUELESS Fhuqks,are funnier than schit. Hint. You couldn't pick the XC out of the crowd. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!............ Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: To Ackley or not, that is the question burt2506 #19281198 03/08/24
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sherm_61 Campfire Regular S Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 1,981 Havre MT	To each his own on dies, and decent quality Type S bushing die set is gonna be atleast 200.00 -300.00. Bushing dies are all i will own anymore started that atleast 10 years ago my needs are to control nk and when lots vary on brass its almost a must in wildcating. Peoples requirements are different but I dont ever let dies pick my caliber choices if I did I wouldn't have half the rifles I do.

Re: To Ackley or not, that is the question Big Stick #19282255 03/08/24
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tikkanut Campfire 'Bwana T Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 30,784 Likes: 9 Rural Utah USA	Originally Posted by Big Stick Brokedick Stories from CLUELESS Fhuqks,are funnier than schit. Hint. You couldn't pick the XC out of the crowd. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!............ HINT T R U M P W O N ! U L T R A M A G A !

Re: To Ackley or not, that is the question burt2506 #19293873 03/12/24
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TA 17 Rem Campfire Member T Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 269 S.C. Min	Fireing pin holes on rem. don't need to be bushed, it's just a sales gimmick.

Re: To Ackley or not, that is the question TA 17 Rem #19295804 03/13/24
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sherm_61 Campfire Regular S Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 1,981 Havre MT	Originally Posted by TA 17 Rem Fireing pin holes on rem. don't need to be bushed, it's just a sales gimmick. I know catered primers are just a sales gimmick.

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Re: To Ackley or not, that is the question burt2506 #19322980 03/22/24
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MTGunner Campfire Regular M Joined: May 2008 Posts: 1,686 NW Montana	The irony is that AI will allow more firings of brass. My 260AI has approx. 6% more case capacity albeit I do not load 6% more. To AI the smaller calibers is a personal choice and you will not get the value if you sell. MTG Vena dura, ocyus occide, excusas non offer!

Re: To Ackley or not, that is the question burt2506 #19323154 03/22/24
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6MMWASP Campfire Tracker 6 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 5,827 Montana	I prefer short barreled rifles and that is one more reason to chamber an AI. You can make up some, if not all of the velocity you loose between a 20" barrel and a 24" barrel.

Re: To Ackley or not, that is the question burt2506 #19340438 03/28/24
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OP burt2506 Campfire Regular B Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 674	Thanks to all for sharing your perspectives. ... I appreciate the insight. The saga continues......

Re: To Ackley or not, that is the question TA 17 Rem #19421724 Yesterday at 04:28 PM
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SWGAShooter Campfire Regular S Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 667	I have a 700 ADL in a short action that pretty much any reload or factory loading would make primers look like extreme over pressure. Sent to Jon Beanland and had the bolt bushed. Never had another issue. It was about 100.00 and a two week turnaround. Last edited by SWGAShooter; Yesterday at 04:42 PM. Rick Grimes for Governor "This isn't a democracy anymore"

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