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Re: Interesting Murder trial, Self Defense or not? JOG #19377129 04/11/24
Joined: Aug 2022 Posts: 1,308 South Louisiana Simplepeddler Campfire Regular
Simplepeddler Campfire Regular Joined: Aug 2022 Posts: 1,308 South Louisiana	Originally Posted by JOG This is a somewhat local case, so I have to assume most of you don't know details. I hope the defendant get life behind bars. local enough to were you know the teenagers? Sad turn of events for sure.

Re: Interesting Murder trial, Self Defense or not? plumbum #19377213 04/11/24
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JOG Campfire Outfitter Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 13,547 Minnesota	Originally Posted by plumbum Originally Posted by JOG This is a somewhat local case, so I have to assume most of you don't know details. I hope the defendant get life behind bars. Well don't share.... Miu (the defendant) punched one gal and stabbed another gal, both were in their 20's. Neither gal was even in the group that Miu was arguing with. After being arrested he made up a whopper of a tale regarding what happened, and then was surprised that it was videoed by someone on the scene. Miu started everything that happened and is desperately trying to justify it after the fact. Forgive me my nonsense, as I also forgive the nonsense of those that think they talk sense. Robert Frost

Re: Interesting Murder trial, Self Defense or not? JOG #19377228 04/11/24
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Simplepeddler Campfire Regular Joined: Aug 2022 Posts: 1,308 South Louisiana	Originally Posted by JOG Originally Posted by plumbum Originally Posted by JOG This is a somewhat local case, so I have to assume most of you don't know details. I hope the defendant get life behind bars. Well don't share.... Miu (the defendant) punched one gal and stabbed another gal, both were in their 20's. Neither gal was even in the group that Miu was arguing with. After being arrested he made up a whopper of a tale regarding what happened, and then was surprised that it was videoed by someone on the scene. Miu started everything that happened and is desperately trying to justify it after the fact. Can you provide a link to that video? Not being an ass, but that is not the videos I've seen and if there is more out there, it needs to be plastered everywhere.

Re: Interesting Murder trial, Self Defense or not? Simplepeddler #19377235 04/11/24
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JOG Campfire Outfitter Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 13,547 Minnesota	Originally Posted by Simplepeddler Originally Posted by JOG This is a somewhat local case, so I have to assume most of you don't know details. I hope the defendant get life behind bars. local enough to were you know the teenagers? Sad turn of events for sure. No, just local enough to have it on the news every day. Most of the players in this deal, including the defendant, are from the area. Forgive me my nonsense, as I also forgive the nonsense of those that think they talk sense. Robert Frost

Re: Interesting Murder trial, Self Defense or not? Simplepeddler #19377258 04/11/24
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JOG Campfire Outfitter Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 13,547 Minnesota	Originally Posted by Simplepeddler Originally Posted by JOG Originally Posted by plumbum Originally Posted by JOG This is a somewhat local case, so I have to assume most of you don't know details. I hope the defendant get life behind bars. Well don't share.... Miu (the defendant) punched one gal and stabbed another gal, both were in their 20's. Neither gal was even in the group that Miu was arguing with. After being arrested he made up a whopper of a tale regarding what happened, and then was surprised that it was videoed by someone on the scene. Miu started everything that happened and is desperately trying to justify it after the fact. Can you provide a link to that video? Not being an ass, but that is not the videos I've seen and if there is more out there, it needs to be plastered everywhere. Forgive me my nonsense, as I also forgive the nonsense of those that think they talk sense. Robert Frost

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Re: Interesting Murder trial, Self Defense or not? cv540 #19377288 04/11/24
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GreatWaputi Campfire Ranger G Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 18,462 Likes: 2 OreGONE	Wow, you're seriously basing "facts" on media reports?

Re: Interesting Murder trial, Self Defense or not? GreatWaputi #19377313 04/11/24
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JOG Campfire Outfitter Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 13,547 Minnesota	Originally Posted by GreatWaputi Wow, you're seriously basing "facts" on media reports? No. The whole thing is on video. Forgive me my nonsense, as I also forgive the nonsense of those that think they talk sense. Robert Frost

Re: Interesting Murder trial, Self Defense or not? GreatWaputi #19377316 04/11/24
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steve4102 Campfire 'Bwana S Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 34,268 Likes: 4 MN	Originally Posted by GreatWaputi Wow, you're seriously basing "facts" on media reports? Yeah, don't do that, they are not to be trusted. Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.

Re: Interesting Murder trial, Self Defense or not? steve4102 #19377357 04/11/24
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kenster99 Campfire Tracker K Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 6,219 Likes: 1 Winchester ID	Its on video, been watching the trial for a few days. No reason to gut and stab 5 kids , after first punching a woman in the face who weighed 115 pnds .

Re: Interesting Murder trial, Self Defense or not? JOG #19377366 04/11/24
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Pharmseller Campfire Outfitter P Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 13,183 Likes: 1 Willamette Valley, Oregon	Originally Posted by GreatWaputi Wow, you're seriously basing "facts" on media reports? Originally Posted by JOG Originally Posted by GreatWaputi Wow, you're seriously basing "facts" on media reports? My thoughts exactly. No. The whole thing is on video. The whole thing? Or just the parts they showed you? P Obey lawful commands. Video interactions. Hold bad cops accountable. Problem solved. ~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~ Member #547 Join date 3/09/2001

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Re: Interesting Murder trial, Self Defense or not? cv540 #19377421 04/11/24
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kenster99 Campfire Tracker K Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 6,219 Likes: 1 Winchester ID	Guilty of 1st degree homicide. Done.

Re: Interesting Murder trial, Self Defense or not? Pharmseller #19377443 04/11/24
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Simplepeddler Campfire Regular Joined: Aug 2022 Posts: 1,308 South Louisiana	Originally Posted by Pharmseller Originally Posted by GreatWaputi Wow, you're seriously basing "facts" on media reports? Originally Posted by JOG Originally Posted by GreatWaputi Wow, you're seriously basing "facts" on media reports? My thoughts exactly. No. The whole thing is on video. The whole thing? Or just the parts they showed you? Still pics are not video. The prosecutors are doing their jobs to create a narrative, but the defense is also doing a good job destroying the witnesses. P

Re: Interesting Murder trial, Self Defense or not? cv540 #19377491 04/11/24
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JOG Campfire Outfitter Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 13,547 Minnesota	25-year-old girl, but apparently very scary even while walking away, stabbed: The same girl laying with her guts sticking out: The same girl (mirror image) with the surgery scar needed to put her guts back in: Forgive me my nonsense, as I also forgive the nonsense of those that think they talk sense. Robert Frost

Re: Interesting Murder trial, Self Defense or not? cv540 #19377497 04/11/24
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JOG Campfire Outfitter Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 13,547 Minnesota	Guilty - First Degree Reckless Homicide Forgive me my nonsense, as I also forgive the nonsense of those that think they talk sense. Robert Frost

Re: Interesting Murder trial, Self Defense or not? cv540 #19377578 04/11/24
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Redneck Campfire Kahuna R Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 59,167 Likes: 2 WI.	Yup - guilty on all counts.. Ex- USN (SS) '66-'69 Pro-Constitution. LET'S GO BRANDON!!!

Re: Interesting Murder trial, Self Defense or not? Redneck #19377647 04/11/24
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kenster99 Campfire Tracker K Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 6,219 Likes: 1 Winchester ID	Should have stayed in his home country to practice his knife fighting skills.

Re: Interesting Murder trial, Self Defense or not? Redneck #19377707 04/11/24
Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 50,636 Anchorage, AK USA Sitka deer Campfire Kahuna
Sitka deer Campfire Kahuna Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 50,636 Anchorage, AK USA	Originally Posted by Redneck Yup - guilty on all counts.. Nope. They failed to convict on first degree murder. Mark Begich, Joaquin Jackson, and Heller resistance... Three huge reasons to worry about the NRA.

Re: Interesting Murder trial, Self Defense or not? cv540 #19377719 04/11/24
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killerv Campfire Tracker K Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 4,537 Middle Ga	A couple more tats will hide those scars in no time

Re: Interesting Murder trial, Self Defense or not? Sitka deer #19377727 04/11/24
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killerv Campfire Tracker K Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 4,537 Middle Ga	Originally Posted by Sitka deer Originally Posted by Redneck Yup - guilty on all counts.. Nope. They failed to convict on first degree murder. Just reported they convicted him for reckless homicide and battery

Re: Interesting Murder trial, Self Defense or not? killerv #19382545 04/13/24
Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 50,636 Anchorage, AK USA Sitka deer Campfire Kahuna
Sitka deer Campfire Kahuna Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 50,636 Anchorage, AK USA	Originally Posted by killerv Originally Posted by Sitka deer Originally Posted by Redneck Yup - guilty on all counts.. Nope. They failed to convict on first degree murder. Just reported they convicted him for reckless homicide and battery Those charges were added mid-trial by the prosecutor when he felt murder one was not going to stick. Mark Begich, Joaquin Jackson, and Heller resistance... Three huge reasons to worry about the NRA.

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