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Don't most people die from heart failure ????? Not young healthy people at rates not ever seen before in history Serious question. Where are you getting real data. Most of what I have read, from both sides, seem to be exaggerated! I see no truth from any, that has data to solidify either argument. I understand the anger around covid, because of the way it was handled. But there seems to be a lot of misinformation that keeps popping up from time to time. Covid hit close to home here, three were lost or the Dr's said covid. Two were in their 90's and one was an obese 45 year old. None were vaxed. Those in their 90's were not healthy and the 45 year old, was a native alcoholic. That said the small sample would say the vax worked, because none of the vaxed around me died. I'm not pushing either agenda! Its already been proved that the death shot does absolutely nothing. Zero. And if you spend some time talking with people who got it, a lot have gotten covid repeatedly. They lied from the beginning. Literally everything they told us was bullchit. Why wouldnt you question it all and seek out the truth? The info is out there to be found if one choses to search it out. The man who invented the MRNA shot has come out and warned against using it. Once again, the man who made it states to stay the f uck away. Why wouldnt you listen to him?
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I find it strange that we haven't seen a huge increase in heart attacks given this gloomy prognostication by the prolific Dr. Hoffe. How can you possibly not be aware of the massive increase in heart trouble and sudden death? Not to mention cancer and blood clots. Because people like him wont admit they were wrong. They are as responsible for what has happened as Faucci Best bud got his shots due to his history of ulcerative colitus and autoimmune issues. Didn't want to, but Dr. said you better. Early 40s, runs/bikes a couple days every weak, fairly active. Soon after started having breathing issues. Got checked out, heart scars, mild heartattack. Now he is seeing both a cardiologist and pulmonologist. He figured all the remicade treatments over the years, etc would get him early but now he has this on top of it. Now his Dr says don't get another one. He wishes he never got the shots. The cancer upkick is real, jabs are like putting lighter fluid on any cancer cells. But hey....they are safe and effective. For sure. I feel bad for the people who were forced to get it and threatened with their jobs. The ones responsible should be strung up
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Don't most people die from heart failure ????? Not young healthy people at rates not ever seen before in history Serious question. Where are you getting real data. Most of what I have read, from both sides, seem to be exaggerated! I see no truth from any, that has data to solidify either argument. I understand the anger around covid, because of the way it was handled. But there seems to be a lot of misinformation that keeps popping up from time to time. Covid hit close to home here, three were lost or the Dr's said covid. Two were in their 90's and one was an obese 45 year old. None were vaxed. Those in their 90's were not healthy and the 45 year old, was a native alcoholic. That said the small sample would say the vax worked, because none of the vaxed around me died. I'm not pushing either agenda! Its already been proved that the death shot does absolutely nothing. Zero. And if you spend some time talking with people who got it, a lot have gotten covid repeatedly. They lied from the beginning. Literally everything they told us was bullchit. Why wouldnt you question it all and seek out the truth? The info is out there to be found if one choses to search it out. The man who invented the MRNA shot has come out and warned against using it. Once again, the man who made it states to stay the f uck away. Why wouldnt you listen to him? You have no need to soap box me!! I wasn't questioning if the shot wasn't the biggest scam in history. And dangerous, I was questioning the 300% increase, and other data spouted by "you tube" Dr's and their sheepole. With no data that I have seen. I just earlier gave personal experience. Right or wrong the only people I knew personally ,that have covid as a cause of death, on the death certificate, were not vaxed. I personally know nobody vaxed that died, or are having the nightmare of problems, discussed here. Not saying it's good, just facts.
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I find it strange that we haven't seen a huge increase in heart attacks given this gloomy prognostication by the prolific Dr. Hoffe. How can you possibly not be aware of the massive increase in heart trouble and sudden death? Not to mention cancer and blood clots. Because people like him wont admit they were wrong. They are as responsible for what has happened as Faucci Best bud got his shots due to his history of ulcerative colitus and autoimmune issues. Didn't want to, but Dr. said you better. Early 40s, runs/bikes a couple days every weak, fairly active. Soon after started having breathing issues. Got checked out, heart scars, mild heartattack. Now he is seeing both a cardiologist and pulmonologist. He figured all the remicade treatments over the years, etc would get him early but now he has this on top of it. Now his Dr says don't get another one. He wishes he never got the shots. The cancer upkick is real, jabs are like putting lighter fluid on any cancer cells. But hey....they are safe and effective. For sure. I feel bad for the people who were forced to get it and threatened with their jobs. The ones responsible should be strung up . All of them responsible should be strung up hunt them down till every last one is executed for crimes against humanity.
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Don't most people die from heart failure ????? Not young healthy people at rates not ever seen before in history Lots of 18 to 48 year Olds with mycartis after taking the jab I'm 73 did not take the jab, had covid19 starting o. 11-02-2020 mine was mild without taking the jab . I often wonder how many of the 18 to 48 took other drugs, legal or illegal. Is there data on that?
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Couple of things that I've observed....
First, I'm no doctor, but my niece is and she told me from the beginning to never take the covid shot. She did research at Mayo in Rochester, MN. for years and she said the mRNA method of producing vaccines was unstable and they never had got it to work. Researchers had been trying for 20+ years to figure it out, without success. And then in a few months, waalaa..... it was figured out and all the testing had been done. Testing that normally took years.....
Now, what I've seen in our small community is 20-40 year old men, that took the jab and at least 1 booster, dying from heart problems. It seems the jab itself isn't so bad, but the boosters are the problem. Up until the covid started, there was one 28 year old male died from heart problems in the last 10 years. After the jab and boosters, we had 4 die from heart problems in 2 years.... all 4 took boosters.
Is it coincidence, I don't think so.
just my $.02 worth
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I gues we are going to be very short on medical care as all the doctors,nurses, PA's etc all were required to get the vaccine.
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I know at least 100 at work…a hospital….that were vaccinated. I know one person had a bad rash that lasted a couple months. The rest all seem to be as before. Haven’t heard of any HA’s.
The hospital offered, but didn’t require Covid vaccination. They do require flu vaccination.
A recurring theme…. The antivaxers all know multiples, those who were Ok with it know few in comparison.
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All of them responsible should be strung up hunt them down till every last one is executed for crimes against humanity. This.
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Don't most people die from heart failure ????? Not young healthy people at rates not ever seen before in history Lots of 18 to 48 year Olds with mycartis after taking the jab I'm 73 did not take the jab, had covid19 starting o. 11-02-2020 mine was mild without taking the jab . I often wonder how many of the 18 to 48 took other drugs, legal or illegal. Is there data on that? Same question can also be asked: How many people died WITH Covid instead of FROM it? The vast majority that I heard of had other underlying conditions like the guy I played pro baseball with. He died "from" Covid, at least that's what his death certificate said. Actually , he was diabetic, and his weight had ballooned to 330lbs on a 5'11" frame. Covid is the biggest fraud ever perpetrated on the American people, and people worldwide for that matter.
It is irrelevant what you think. What matters is the TRUTH.
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Agree with Covid being pushed as the next plague.
Personally had Covid… it was a miserable week, mainly because I let myself become dehydrated.
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Don't most people die from heart failure ????? Not young healthy people at rates not ever seen before in history Serious question. Where are you getting real data. Most of what I have read, from both sides, seem to be exaggerated! I see no truth from any, that has data to solidify either argument. I understand the anger around covid, because of the way it was handled. But there seems to be a lot of misinformation that keeps popping up from time to time. Covid hit close to home here, three were lost or the Dr's said covid. Two were in their 90's and one was an obese 45 year old. None were vaxed. Those in their 90's were not healthy and the 45 year old, was a native alcoholic. That said the small sample would say the vax worked, because none of the vaxed around me died. I'm not pushing either agenda! Its already been proved that the death shot does absolutely nothing. Zero. And if you spend some time talking with people who got it, a lot have gotten covid repeatedly. They lied from the beginning. Literally everything they told us was bullchit. Why wouldnt you question it all and seek out the truth? The info is out there to be found if one choses to search it out. The man who invented the MRNA shot has come out and warned against using it. Once again, the man who made it states to stay the f uck away. Why wouldnt you listen to him? You have no need to soap box me!! I wasn't questioning if the shot wasn't the biggest scam in history. And dangerous, I was questioning the 300% increase, and other data spouted by "you tube" Dr's and their sheepole. With no data that I have seen. I just earlier gave personal experience. Right or wrong the only people I knew personally ,that have covid as a cause of death, on the death certificate, were not vaxed. I personally know nobody vaxed that died, or are having the nightmare of problems, discussed here. Not saying it's good, just facts. Got ya
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Couple of things that I've observed....
First, I'm no doctor, but my niece is and she told me from the beginning to never take the covid shot. She did research at Mayo in Rochester, MN. for years and she said the mRNA method of producing vaccines was unstable and they never had got it to work. Researchers had been trying for 20+ years to figure it out, without success. And then in a few months, waalaa..... it was figured out and all the testing had been done. Testing that normally took years.....
Now, what I've seen in our small community is 20-40 year old men, that took the jab and at least 1 booster, dying from heart problems. It seems the jab itself isn't so bad, but the boosters are the problem. Up until the covid started, there was one 28 year old male died from heart problems in the last 10 years. After the jab and boosters, we had 4 die from heart problems in 2 years.... all 4 took boosters.
Is it coincidence, I don't think so.
just my $.02 worth Spot on. Boosters seem to be causing most of the issue
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I got the shot and boosters, a total of three, and I got Covid at least twice, can't say I was really sick but it lingered for a long time. It was a toss up for me, in hindsight, I think there was much misinformation from the gov't about what the shot was all about and what it could do. Only time will tell but I do think it was a farce and a scam, but like the last election, we may never know the truth about any of it!
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Well.........
Most here will die of heart disease without any help from a vaccination
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Don't most people die from heart failure ????? Not young healthy people at rates not ever seen before in history Lots of 18 to 48 year Olds with mycartis after taking the jab I'm 73 did not take the jab, had covid19 starting o. 11-02-2020 mine was mild without taking the jab . I often wonder how many of the 18 to 48 took other drugs, legal or illegal. Is there data on that? The only change was taking the "so called vaccine". Which caused the increase in mycardis to those young people
I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
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257Bob,
You saying the last election was a scam?
And the truth eluded us? Maybe by design?
Hmm…
Ya reckon?
But you can trust the govt.?
Sure ya can….
Yeah. Right.
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Well.........
Most here will die of heart disease without any help from a vaccination The shot gives plenty of help
I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
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Well.........
Most here will die of heart disease without any help from a vaccination The shot gives plenty of help Young, middle and old age.
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A little over 70% of the world population received at least one jab.
The phrase vast majority means at least 80% IMO.
So in a couple of years 56% of the worlds population will be dead. (not allowing for births or death in other manners)
Might be kind of nice.
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