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Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
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Campfire 'Bwana
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Started at 730 this morning. Wrapped up Labrador Hill and the corner field. Lot of walking.... About 4.5 hours worth, probably 4 to 4.5 miles. Hit beaver lake hill bright and early tommorow morning. 4 to 5 hours at least to cover the entire area, it is a large area with multiple spots to go to. Will have tripod stand spot, isolated ridge spot, and plateau spot left over to wrap up and call it a year. Take me about 4 hours to do those 3. Corn will get alot taller over the next 2 weeks. Right now it is about 8 to 10 inches and still able to see ground all around it. Wrap all this up Sunday. The skinny drill would have been really cool if the finger tabs on the sides of it were intact. Don't know if that tan wide spear is a spear point or a preform The blunt Eva was pretty cool, could be a calf creek also? Reworked point upper left was probably a pretty nice spear/ Lance point from the left over original profile bottom half of it. Ain't never found a spear or Lance on Labrador Hill till I found that reworked one this morning. Find alot of spear/ Lance points on pitbull hill though.
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Campfire 'Bwana
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Grass has gotten kinda high for me in my best spot. Found nothing after the 3" rain Sunday morning. May head over to cousins and scout around. Promising stuff there in his field
Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
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I thought the Indians got sloppier with their knapping as time went on. Here in the PNW, the finer points are found in locales where life was the easiest. I.e. if food was plentiful, like along the Columbia River, there was plenty of time to elevate things to an art form. With glacial melt and the Missoula floods, fishing periodically became impossible, tribes had to move to the less productive uplands, and points became quite crude. As the floods receded, fishing picked up, good times returned, and another layer of fine work occurs. If one travels down the Columbia, stop in at Bonneville Dam, and given the extensive excavations required for the build, they have museum exhibits clearly depicting the waxing and waning of knapping talents across time. We're in SE Oregon, and rumor has it our resident Paiutes were composed of mostly undesirable outcasts forced into the hinterlands. Life in the high desert is tough with seasonal moves across the landscape necessary to hunt, fish, forage, and endure winter. Most finds here are fairly rough even though we have the finest of obsidian about. The nearest local digs date back about 15,000 yrs, but they're not uncovering any Clovis work. As to time in general, the Clovis points, with their near full-length flutes, are some of the earliest and yet most difficult forms to duplicate. Still, no one knows exactly what techniques were historically employed in their fabrication. It's clear those large flutes were the absolute final steps though. Several modern duplication methods have been devised with some requiring 3 hands, but even our most advanced efforts frequently break ones point in half with the final strikes. Knapping is one of my many hobbies with raw materials about in abundance (various forms of obsidian), but I've not yet elevated it to an art form. A good mind cleansing but often frustrating endeavor though. A photo hint: If one wants to do a better job of presenting the subtle colors of his finds, place them in a shallow cookie or baking pan beneath about 3/4 inch of water. The above are not near as brilliant when dry and out in the air. ' Beautiful points. IIRC, Oregon obsidian traveled far and wide in the ancient world.
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Great finds. Thanks for sharing.
1minute your work is amazing. The best arrowhead I ever found was just north of your local.
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Campfire 'Bwana
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Back at the truck. Got out here at 715. Beaver lake hill wrapped up for the year. 3 spots left tommorow. Tripod stand field, isolated ridge field, and plateau field. Then done for the year until the late Jan thru early March time frame. Think that red bullseye peice is a graver/ gouger of some sort. Big Ole pre form Really fine knapped on edges 3/4 round scraper. Broken ear small serrated kirk was a nutcrusher when I pulled it. Little white point got clipped on its bottom taper and angle base. Think it was a snap based kirk. Spear/ Lance point was kinda a " oh fuuk it's broke" moment.
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Back at the truck. Got out here at 715. Beaver lake hill wrapped up for the year. 3 spots left tommorow. Tripod stand field, isolated ridge field, and plateau field. Then done for the year until the late Jan thru early March time frame. Think that red bullseye peice is a graver/ gouger of some sort. Big Ole pre form Really fine knapped on edges 3/4 round scraper. Broken ear small serrated kirk was a nutcrusher when I pulled it. Little white point got clipped on its bottom taper and angle base. Think it was a snap based kirk. Spear/ Lance point was kinda a " oh fuuk it's broke" moment. That larger one on the left was curved for throwing around big trees.. 😁 Those are some nice ones.
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Where do you find those? All I have is a stone hammer.
These premises insured by a Sheltie in Training ,--- and Cooey.o "May the Good Lord take a likin' to you"
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Done for the year. 👍🏻 4 on left came from tripod stand area. 6 on right from isolated ridge area. Nada from the plateau area. Time to 86 my 3 yr old poking stick ( thin steel broom handle) getting kinda short like below my belt line. It was up around zyphiod height 3 yrs ago. Poking sticks wear down, walking, prying up rocks, flipping flakes, rusting, chipping away ect ect ect.... Adios walking stick.... Another will take your place this winter.....
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