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Very nice! I could hunt any thing in the US & Africa with that combo and be happy to do so...
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Those two would make great yardsticks for the new ones. Compare side by side, materiels, worksmanship, etc.... then decide.
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BTW - you can take a super grade that weights 8lbs to start with and put it in a McMillan edge stock and end up with a really, really nice rifle.
I DID!!!!
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Don't get me started on these again(grin). I want one as well, but I'm a 338 Win Mag fan.
I think I'm going to wait for the 338WM. If Winchester are silly enough not to chamber them next year, I'm sure they'll be smart enough to at least add the 375 H&H.
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I have three of the last Super Grades (series III). 7mm, 300 and 300WSM (RMEF). They all have beautiful wood and are in mint shape. Kind of like knowning that they came from the old place..
"...aspire to live quietly, and to mind your own affairs, and to work with your hands, as we instructed you, so that you may walk properly before outsiders and be dependent on no one." - Paul to the church in Thessalonica.
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Not made at a Winchester plant, should it be a called Winchester Model 70? Should be called what it is a FN m70. Big bucks for a wanna be Winchester m70.
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FN has shot themselves in the foot using the lousy Browning trigger instead of the original Winchester trigger on the new Model 70s...they still have the trigger but put it on their sniper rifle only...that makes the USRAC rifles a bargain...and boosts their prices....if I could get a Classic Super Grade as you indicated originally, I would jump for it...Otherwise a Kimber Super for 1800 would be my choice...
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I handled one of them yesterday and thought they were nicely finished. To me the discouragement is the weight. By the time a scope and mounts are added the weight is too much (for me anyway). I have one of the early '90s Custom Super Grades. The weight of it is on the heavy side also. After taking one moose with it I have never hunted it again. It seems too pretty to use. Now it gets used for target practice. It seems as if they are chambering for the most popular calibers first. If those sell well I'm sure the caliber selection will be expanded. When the price is compared to what is being asked for many other rifles now the price doesn't seem that much out of line especially when you consider the discounting that will likely take place at the retail level.\ Just my .02
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Anyway you slice it, It is nice to see the M70 back in production again, and in America.
By the way, where do you think the FN police/tactical rifles are made? Same place. They shoot lights out, too.....
I've a circa 2000 Supergrade 300Win mag NIB I may sell.....
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Got a super grade on the way. Can't wait to get my mitts on it.
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I agree with Savage. I am not even going to bother with a new one. They can name it what they want; but without the original trigger, it is NOT a M70. Just another "cost-saving" bunch of BS.
I wish they'd taken a pre 64 to Miroku in Japan,and turned those guys loose like they did in the 80's with the M71's and M12's. THOSE are faithful reproductions of the old guns. Americans have been screwing up the M70 since 1964,and I seriously doubt these things are going to be any different.They just will never get it straight.
I'd spend the money on an action and build, or get a pre 64 and leave the new Super Grade in the store to look at.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Pluse the triggers on the new 70's might be better.
The operative word there is 'might'... IMHO, that's not the word that's going to apply.. They had the best, anything after that's going to be second best..
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And they are heavier so you walk slower.....grin.
I don't think I would buy a Super Grade until they come in Stainless again.
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I'd want a 300 WM in a FWT. If I was getting a supergrade there is no question mine would have to be a 338 WM.
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