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I agree with VA, the Dan Wesson's are very nice. If I were in the market for a 1911, I'd be grabbing a Dan Wesson in 10mm in a New York minute.

If I didn't have a G20, I likely would as well.

How do the Dan Wessons comnpare to the Kimbers?

The Fusions look interesting too, but trying to stay with production guns.

I'm a big fan of Kimbers because I think your dollar goes pretty far wtih a Kimber. But the Dan Wesson's are really the nicest out of the box, non-custom, 1911's out there today.

Something that's huge for me, is that Dan Wesson uses the Ed Brown grip safety, which is clearly the best feeling, highest grip, grip safety out there. I can live with other grip safeties, but when you pick up a 1911 with an Ed Brown GS, the difference is immediate and obvious.

The rest of the parts are quite comparable to a Kimber, but the overall fit and finish seems somewhat superior on the Dan Wessons.

Really, the Dan Wesson is the best 1911, and no one really knows they're out there. I would just love to have one in 10mm.

Agreed, across the board. And I'm a big fan of Kimber.

What is a real world price on a Dan Wesson 1911?

$700-800ish, depending on set-up, model, etc.

Well I hate Blocks (Glocks) so this was my choice

I took me 18 years but I finally got it. A new in box 10mm Auto S&W 1006. YUP! New in Box!

Paid dearly for it but what the heck!

DAMN, that thing's cool.


Travis

POP - Nice pistol, you're going to enjoy it. The S&W's were built completely right for the 10mm cartridge. The 1911 platform is not quite enough for the 10mm. Kinda like how the K frame was never quite enough for the .357 magnum...It works, but they wear out much faster.

S&W engineered that gun to be a 10mm from the get go. I recently saw a S&W 1026 for sale and if I had the cash, I would have picked it up. The 1026 is the same gun but has a frame mounted decocker (where a decocker belongs). The 1006 is such a versatile handgun, especially with the adjustable sights like you have.

I'm not a DA auto fan, but I'd take that one. Congratulations!

Me likey much!

Boy Kevin what are you trying to do.... keep me from spending money??? First it's "Glock really means it when they say no reloads"..... then there is all kinds of praise for the Dan Wesson 1911s <I remember major quality control issues from their now long ago revolvers.... never would have given a DW 1911 a second look.... now I'm thinking the bobtail looks pretty sweet> Next VA posts something about Double Tap ammo and the range of 10 MM performance is now mild to very wild.

I'm starting to think I need a 10 MM because it could be both small enough to conceal and enough gun to cleanly take a few deer with and now this about about a 1911 really isn't quit right for a 10 MM. I think I now have gun looney whiplash

Here is a review of the DW bobtail in .45
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CrcoRKG3E0

2ndwind - Not trying to rain on your parade, but when you've been in the game as long as I have, you learn the weaknesses of every pistol design out there.

I happen to know the chap (in a round about way) that was called in to consult with Colt on the 10mm Delta pistol. The original design had a MUCH heavier slide and a 22lb recoil spring (keeping in mind, the most common load back then was the really poweful Norma load...there was no 10mm lite). Colt rejected this idea and used a standard weight slide and a dual captive spring setup. When frames were cracking early, they simply milled out the slide rail over the slide stop (which actually turned out to be a good idea). The original design went on to become the Peter's Stahl conversion, which was top notch.

The 10mm 1911's are THE setup for a 1911 in my book, but I realize that a steady diet of 10mm in a 1911 will eventually give me a cracked frame and possibly a cracked slide. I don't sweat that because it's easy and not all that expensive to just swap out the slide or frame if and when that happens.

For most people, they're never going to shoot enough full power 10mm to ever threaten a Dan Wesson 1911. Just like most people never wore out their S&W M19's or M66's.

Thanx fellas!!!!!


A lot of power for an auto.



Cartridge : 10 mm Auto (SAAMI)
Bullet : .400, 135, Nosler JHP 44852
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 1.260 inch or 32.00 mm
Barrel Length : 5.0 inch or 127.0 mm
Powder : Alliant POWER PISTOL

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 72 9.28 1232 455 19841 5573 79.8 0.552
-18.0 74 9.51 1260 476 20906 5777 80.9 0.539
-16.0 76 9.74 1289 498 22017 5982 82.0 0.526
-14.0 78 9.98 1317 520 23174 6186 83.1 0.514
-12.0 79 10.21 1345 542 24379 6390 84.2 0.501
-10.0 81 10.44 1373 565 25634 6594 85.2 0.489
-08.0 83 10.67 1401 589 26940 6796 86.2 0.477
-06.0 85 10.90 1429 612 28300 6997 87.2 0.465
-04.0 87 11.14 1457 637 29715 7197 88.1 0.454 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 88 11.37 1485 661 31187 7395 89.0 0.444 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 90 11.60 1513 686 32718 7591 89.8 0.433 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 92 11.83 1541 712 34311 7785 90.7 0.424 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 94 12.06 1569 738 35969 7977 91.5 0.414 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 96 12.30 1597 764 37692 8165 92.2 0.405 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 97 12.53 1624 791 39486 8351 92.9 0.396 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 99 12.76 1652 818 41351 8534 93.6 0.387 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Try the Winchester SilverTip JHP factory loads.

Hands down, they are my go-to favorite for the 10. They just do everything very, very well.

Nice Smith, Pop.

I use Power Pistol for my 10mm loads. I primarily use 165 Golden Sabers. Good mid-weight bullet.

Enjoy your 10!

+1 on the Silvertip, it's an outstanding go anywhere, do anything load for the 10mm.

Is the Peter Stahl conversion still available.

Not that I know of.