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My gunsmith said my Turkish Mauser was a large ring small thread. I am wanting to make a .270 out of it. Midway sells the barrels for it. Is this action strong enough.
My smith says yes, but his yes was a little hesitant??????

This doesn't answer your question, but you might get into a 270 for less $$ by going with a Marlin XR-7 or Stevens 200.

Jeff

Yea, I guess I am to far along to do that. Thanks anyway

You are fine with that unit. The large ring is the precursor to approaching modern day pressures, and the thread will make no difference. 1Minute

http://www.turkmauser.com/

There is some information on this site about them.

I don't know enough about them to answer your question, though.

Here's a 1903 Turk next to a VZ-24 for comparison. Hope this helps you. 1st Photo Turk is on the right, next two it's on the left.

As you can see there is plenty of "beef" in the front ring. One of my future projects for one of my Turks is to bore out and re-thread the receiver for a 16 tpi thread.

Are you going to have your Turkish Mauser action reheat-treated? I have "heard" that some of the Turkish Mauser actions were "soft".

Jeff

I know some PHs in africa have been having turks built in .458 Win. Mag. as a cheap trackers rifle. I think it was discussed here on the 'fire somewhere.


p.s. should add they were using the existing small ring type thread, not recutting. Theory being that it gives a bit more meat to the receiver.

Yes.

Seeing as how the 1903 Turks are intermediate length actions that would be a mighty snug fit for a .458 mag.

Also, where would you rather have the beef...around the chamber where the cartridge is or in the receiver ring?

16 tpi threads aren't as deep as 12 tpi threads so the receiver doesn't need to be bored out quite as big.

Here's one of my 1903 Turks with a .30-06 military match round for comparison.

The OAL of the match round with a Sierra 175 gr Match King is 3.37".

With the cartridge base flush against the rear of the bottom opening in the receiver the tip of the bullet is right up against the front of the opening...and as you can see on the top side the bullet tip is touching it's relief cutout and the base is flush against the back of the clip slot.

The Turkish actions are fine...You can also have it brought down to soft and then back up to specs for about $50. then you know it will be OK..

Remember a Mauser is only hardened inside the receiver ring and on the bolt lugs for a reason, that is so it is hard outside and soft inside, that way it will not fragment like a M-70 Win if its overloaded..It will swell and split but that is much safer to the shooter.

Is the Turk strong enough for the 270WCF? Yes.

Is this a smart idea? No. The magazine is too short for the 270, and lengthening it requires the feed ramp to be cut back. The front side of the feed ramp is the buttress for the lower locking lug.

Recommend you stick with a 57 mm case, the length of the original 8 mm.

This is a Mauser and those sure do look like fragments to me!

He didn't say that he had a 1903 Turk. He may have a 1938 K. Kale Turk which is a standard length large ring 98 action with small ring threads. If this is the case, it should work fine.

Rojelio

Yes, It has 1938 stamped on the reciever. The smith that I am working with says that if stay in the range of 130 gr. bullets, that I should not have a problem with feeding (OAL).

Yours is probably a 1903 Turk like this one. They were restamped in the 1930's when they rechambered them to 8mm and they are intermediate length actions.

I could be wrong, but I believe the K. Kales (actually made in Turkey) were made in the 1940's after the war and they are marked "K. Kale."

Yep, looks just like that only has 1938 stamped on it.
What are you using that receiver for?

Well, I had thought about making it into a TV set...but decided to just build a rifle out of it.

Actually, it will end up being a 7x57 somewhere down the road.