Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire LEUPOLD TO DISCONTINUE VXIII and VXL ????

Rick,

Just last week we hosted a sales meeting for a company that reps for Leupold,I met the Leupold people and tested a couple of products and talked to them at length. They never mentioned this,in fact I was told the VX7 line was selling well and would be expanded soon to include illuminated reticles.

Something here doesn't make sense.

Britt

Any word that they will change/discontinue the 2 x 7 VXII? That is a good scope for the money. As a business decision if they plan a new scope to replace the VXIII for more money its probably not a good economic time to do so.

Exactly my question too!

I think the new VX-II's were a discernable improvement over the Vari-X II's, but I don't see the same improvement with the VX-III's.

But the VX/Vari-X III's in 2.5-8 are just the perfect size of scope for my lightweight mountain rigs, and it's the primary reason I still favor them. That and a tad better eye relief than the 3x9's.



Casey

Great! I'm so mad I'm going to sell all of my Leupolds and replace them with Tasco's........at least they never change.

Just a thought but does anyone think this might have something to do with them buying the Redfield brand?


Discontinue the VXIII and the VXL as Leupold products, and poof you rebadge them as Redfield, instant product line, and one that folks will buy.

No eveidence of this, but wouldn't shock me.
Just musing

fwiw & imho,
I've been unimpressed with Leupold for the last five years on a number of fronts. They've provided damned little in the line of optical or mechanical improvements but seem to have concentrated on changing names and increasing prices. I'm not exactly on pins and needles to see what Beaverton is getting ready to hype and market...

Regards, Matt.

Well, I'd been delaying buying another 2.5-8X36, but now the order is in. That should hold me for awhile.

Just a thought: Do you suppose that perhaps Leupold is perhaps going to replace the discontinued models with the once promised, newly redesigned American made Redfields but now wearing a Leupold logo?

I suppose its a reaction to their decreasing share of market. With the new Bushnell, gasp(old baggage), Burris, Weaver, Trijicon, Zeiss Conquest, & Swarovski Z6 providing intense competition it appears some new marketing strategy &/or products are required.

Might be just plain downsizing, cutting the number of models, closing some lines and laying off people. Might be there will be no replacement lines, just fewer products, and of course higher prices. Don't think very many really cared about the VXL anyway! Though I wouldn't mind haveing one of their VX-7's.


Phil

I think the problem is there is too much confusion with the whole vx and vari x designation, there is confusion over which coatings the vx3 has or is it a vari x 3, with the older coatings, it depends on how old the scope is, drop down to the vx 2 and the confusion is even worse. I think its high time to designate their models differently and should have been done long ago. I also think the vx3 has trouble competing with the conquest line at that price point, so maybe they are gonna do something about that.

As far as I'm concerned (and Leupold should be) is the lack of any specs, descriptions, and information on their web site of older model scopes or any links where that information can be found. Seems to me it would be a big + to be able to compair the differences of newer models to older models. Especially with all the after market swaping going on.


Phil

Having never bought a new, non- closeout Leupold, I can't say I care. I do hope that this isn't a sign of poor corporate health on Leupold's part, their warranty service is excellent and they're a cornerstone of Oregon's sporting goods economy.

Interesting, very interesting.

I cannot and won't comment, but this was coming.

Steve

Dear Friend Brian,

Karen and I got an incredible belly-laugh on that one. Thank you for making our morning.

Your friend Steve

I have been waiting (somewhat) patiently for the technologies of the VX7 30 mm tube line to migrate down to the VXIII line 1" tube scopes, I expect this will be it. I have been making-do with 1" Swarovski and Kahles scopes. I do admit they are not exactly hard to take.

jim

I cannot imagine the VXL, or even VX7 are making them a lot of money. Is there really that much of a demand for those two models? Not to mention the Rifleman, which is basically canceled out by the VX1.

Seems like they should streamline a bit.

Jim nailed it.
Someone above said that Leupold hasn't done much recently; well the VX-7 is a VERY excellent scope that was introduced about two years ago. The image the VX-7 delivers is outstanding. I bought the very first one that Rick sold here on the Campfire, and I am very happy to own it. The image from it is outstanding,
I think Jim is on to something with his cmt about the VX-7 technology migrating down to the VXIII line of 1" tube scopes. I personally prefer 1" tubes to 30mm scope tubes, and recently bought a Swarovski 6x42 because it has a 1" tube, with VX-7 quality glass in it. Had Leupold developed and produced a 1" scope 6x42 with the VX-7 glass in it, I would have bought it as opposed to the VERY fine Swaro.
A beautiful rifle deserves a scope with a 1" tube, as opposed to the larger 30mm tube on top. My VX-7 on top of a Ruger MkII just looks BAD. The only advantages to a 30mm tube is more adjustment travel, and a stronger tube, neither of which are needed on today's rifles, at least by me anyway.
Jim, I sure hope you're right...

Don

Not trying to get a debate started, but Leupold in my opinion hasn't done much to keep up with the competition. Take the Sightron Big Sky for example. I think the resolution is better than the current VX3, it has finger adjust, resettable turrets, and a hydrophobic lense coating. And, it is $100 less. That is just an example.

And I like the VX1 line, but I do not understand why any modern scope still uses friction adjustments.

I'd say because most hunters ... including me ... don't care. We're set it and forget it type of folks. Unless you're running turrets why is it important???