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Well, folks I am just about to finish my 45-70 rifle on the rolling block, so today I ordered a 9.3 barrel for my next project, it will have a Lothar Walther barrel in 1-12 twist, be 22 inches long barrel, after I tapper it and cut it down, with express sites and a hogs back stock. This will all be on an o3-a3 receiver, should work just fine. Then my next will be a 257 Roberts, ( I know this is not a big bore, but I have a bad habit of building to many firearms for myself since I got back into gunsmithing ). On the 9.3x62, does anybody have a load that I could start around with a 286gr. bullet.
Thanks James
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James,this is from Noslers web site:
286gr Nosler Partition start max RL-15 54.5 58.5 Varget 51.5 55.5
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Your LW barrel will have a 1x14 or 1x16 (can't recall which) twist as that is all they make and with good reason as that is the best twist..I have used many of them, and LW is the best...
I have shot the 9.3x62 quite a bit in Africa up to and including buffalo...I really like the 286 gr. Nosler and the 320 gr. Woodleigh. The heavy woodleigh really requires a 26 inch tube however or so I am told by Ganyana, who is certainly familair with the 9.3x62..I can get 2400 FPS in mine with this great bullet..I would also take a look at the GS Custom monolithics, and some company has purchased North fork and they made fantastic bullets..I used the cup point North Forks in my 9.3x62 on buffalo and decided it was my favorite bullet for anything from duiker to buffalo. Hope something in this posts helps you out.
The only powder I use in the 9.3x62 is RL-15..Start with 55 grs. of RL-15 with the 286 gr. Nosler and work up to around 57 or a bit more, depending on your particular rifle..I can get 2550 FPS in my long tubed LW barrel. Its max but its a safe max and I get 5 or 6 loading before a trim is needed, then I can get about 4 more loading before I retire the brass to the dumpster.
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My CZ in 9.3X62 really likes the 286 gr partition with RL15.
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My CZ in 9.3X62 really likes the 286 gr partition with RL15. What he said. RL15 worked so well first time out, I've never tried anything else. The 270gr Speer is cheap and works well on deer, too. O
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I've had good luck with Varget and the Speer 270 or Nosler 286 grainers.
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RL15 has treated me pretty well with Barnes 286 TSX but am switching to 286 Normas because I think that the TSX is too tough for 9.3x62 velocities. I got some Norma RNs from a board member at CGN. Now to do up some test loads and see what we've got.
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I was thinking either the partitions or the xxx barnes, really did not know where to start as far as what powder and the load, but I think after reading this I will probably go with the 286 partitions. I am assuming that you are using magnum primers, neck sizing and trimming your cases. Thanks for the info.
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My CZ likes 250 grain TSX with 60.5 Grains of Varget under it.
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I have two 9.3x62, a CZ 550 FS and a Merkel KR-1. I have used Partisan 286, Nosler Partition 286 and Accubond 250, Speer 270, Lapua 285, Norma factory 286 Oryx, Woodleigh 286 solids and Hornady 286. The Speer bullets are the cheapest I've found and as said above the 270 is adequate for whitetail and African plains game. A chap on the Midway site indicated he would not use the Speer on larger plains game (Wildebeest and up). My tests on water-filled milk jugs with Speer was 7 jugs and I did not recover the bullet. Hornady are the next in line for cheap shooting. They are the well constructed interlock design and they performed similar to the Speer in jug tests. I think the issue is - what if bone gets in the way of the slightly lighter Speer. It has more lead tip exposed. The Hornady is of protected point design. Vive la 9.3x62 - a great cartridge At 100 yards all shot well. Seems the best liked powder I've found was RL-15 but H414 with a magnum primer works fine. Most recipes of RL-15 max at 58 to 58.5. I have taken the H414 to 65. The latter seemed quite a bit compared to manuals, but I found it on the net and I worked up from 58. Bl-C2 at 65 gr was pretty snappy for the 270 Speer at about 2500 from the 20 inch CZ barrell. Obvious disclamer: Reduce max loads by 10% or so and work up.
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I switched to Ramshot Big Game from RL15 and have had good results with the 270gr Speer.
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285 prvi and Norma 286 alaska's
BL-C 56grn either bullet
IMR 4064 55.5 grn either bullet
H-414 61.5 either bullet (Pretty darn stiff load if I remember)
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My CZ 550FS loves RL 15 and either 286 Partitions or Hornadys. I plan to work with 250 Accubonds and Ramshot Big Game this winter.
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RL-15 works for me in every weight from 232 to 286. Have not tried anything heavier than 286. Standard primers in my loads. I use Graf & Lapua brass, can't beat the Lapua. 20 inch barrel.
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Rl-15 is a great powder in he 9.3x62, but I have had a little better luck (both accuracy and velocity) with around 65 grains of Ramshot Big Game and the 286-grain bullets, whether the Partition or TSX or whatever. The Partition is like some of the other really heavy Noslers in that the jacket partition is well forward. Generally ith will retain 85-90% of its weight, and penetrate very deeply. It has worked very well for me on heavier game like kudu and moose, but also expands easily on deer-sized game and kills them quickly as well.
RL-15 also works with 250's, but I have Big Game a little slow for the lighter bullets. Varget shoots 250's better in some rifles than RL-15, at about the same velocities. In my CZ (23.6") barrel Varget will easily get 2650 out of a 250 with excellent accuracy.
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Anyone know where there is a nice 9.3 x 62 for sale at a decent price? Been thinking I should be rewarded for not shopping on black friday.
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Thanks..That Guns International also had a Zastava Mauser 98 9.3x62 Sporter.. I think the CZ 550 FS is an attractrive rifle. Just wondering if the 20 1/2" barrel might cause a loss of velocity..
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Yep, the zastava belongs to one person I care not to do business again. If you biy it from Russ good luck! I left it out for a reason I think 20.5 would be fine my 9.3x62 has a 19 3/4 in barrel, it is built like this. http://www.blaser.de/R-93-Professional-Tracking.590.0.html?&L=1Ed
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I have a CZ 550 FS with the 20.5" stock. It shoots everything well. Love that rifle, and would HIGHLY recommend it to anyone looking for a 9.3x62.
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