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I need a beer and some popcorn, this is getting better and better.
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Time to go to work its been fun! Thanks for tonight's entertainment......
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He`s better off now, to sad for the rest of the internet gurus.
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Maybe you could get him all fuzzy with some pictures of you and the bears, I will send his address and you can see about trying to get him off those Accubonds...........
Funny [bleep] right there.....
Proud Member of the AccuBond Society.......
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Tell me some more rich friend suck up stories.
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Would it be alright for one who isn't exactly an ardent X fan to throw the BS flag? This thread is plumb crazy! I have probably not sent $100 worth of TSX copper through the bores of any rifles to date. My experience in killing has been only with the X versions. And I have had simply splendid performance with them when they have been moving well. My only issues have been at long distances when the speed is down. Still, over quite a few dozen kills with them - more kills than initial hits - doubles and all, my failures have been a small percentage. Shooting such a light for caliber bullet is going to allow more speed. That is a good thing if you're worried about a bullet not expanding (being "too hard.") As far as TSXs not shooting at least okay, I can't say that they're fantastic - haven't shot enough. However, with this rebored barrel: and in a bore that was already fouled with various other bullet types. I still sent three TSXs into a triangle well under three inches in any direction from 175 yards with a rested position(leaning against a driftwood stump). At least I had the benefit of the original factory set trigger - all creepy, seven pounds. or so, of it! I certainly don't believe the X is the only - or even the best all purpose bullet out there. And no, you don't need them to kill deer. (They work really well on tundra deer however and never seem to bomb the edibles as multi-metal types can.) I think much of the ridicule here is BS however.
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I don't have near the experience as most in this thread but I can discuss my experiences.
I shoot Barnes TSX's in my 22-250,257Rob,7/08,300WM and 338-06. I also losd for my brother's 300WM,300Wthby and 350RM and my buddies 7Rm and his son's 7/08 with a reduced SR4759 load. They all shoot sub-MOA and some shoot much much better.
I only started loading 2 seasons ago but so far the TSX's have accounted for 10 little SE Whitetails.....9 of those were DRT and the 10th ran 30 yards or so. The rounds that have taken deer have velocities that range from 2,200fps to 3,350fps. I don't think the Barnes is necessary for Whitetail deer but since I have spent thousands of dollars and months of preperation for the season I am not going to skimp on the bullet in my rifle.....I want the most accurate and best performing bullet I can get for a reasonable price.......For me that's the Barnes.
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Magnumdood:...by golly you're RIGHT! That WAS Billy Bob Thornton! Just never registered.......
Last edited by BobinNH; 09/30/08.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Yep Macbeth, "it is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and furry, signifying nothing." Scott: I'm impressed!
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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So if accubonds shoot worse than TSX's in my rifles that makes the complete crap for everyone right? They're crap and not cheap either, the same cost as TSX's that do shoot well in my rifles- they kill good too.
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In my admittedly limited experience the TSX shoots better than the Accubond, FWIW.
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For a "deer only" bullet I can't fathom using either an Accubond or TSX... something more like a Speer HotCore would be my choice.
For a deer/elk load a midweight for caliber TTSX or midweight/heavy-for-caliber Nosler Partition is my first choice...I suppose I could be persuaded with a heavy-for-caliber Accubond as well. Maybe.
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In my experience you'd have to work awfully hard to get the TSX to NOT shoot well. I've shot it in 5 different rifles and it was accurate in every one...........with the first load I tried in each.
I've got no problem with how the Accubond performs on game, I've shot a deer or two with it, but I've never been able to get it to shoot as accurately as the TSX.
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About half the rifles I've tried TSX's in didn't shoot consistently with them... the other half have shot them VERY well... My current two BG rifles like the TSX's and like the TTSX's even better which is fine by me!
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The TSX might not be ideal for benchrest shooting but they just plane kick arse for hunting. In all my rifles I get the TSX to shoot under an inch. In my 25-06 it shoots .25 so it must be somewhat ok.
So does the e-tip suck to??
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So does the e-tip suck to?? It did in the one rifle I've tried it in.
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The jury is out for me so far... haven't done enough with them yet to fully know.
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I just want to see the video of those crabs taking down that bear.
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Those ain't crabs. Them's Alaskan bear lice.
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“Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away” Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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