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I'm in the group the ditches my orange for pics. Geeze, the guy kills one of the biggest bulls ever and all he gets is [bleep].


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I'm in the group the ditches my orange for pics. Geeze, the guy kills one of the biggest bulls ever and all he gets is [bleep].


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If you're going to set up a pretty picture, you can do it any ol' way you want.

And as for buying the Governor's tag--I don't blame the guy for having a bunch of people scouting for him. When you spend $65K for a once in a lifetime opportunity, you'd best make it count.

The guy handed over the cash, got the help he needed, executed a plan and it all came together for him--on a fair chase hunt.

Good for him!


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The anti-hunter groups like PETA must love this post. If you pay money for a guide, it's not a legitimate hunt. If you have help, it's not a legitimate hunt. If you get an elk the first two days, it's not legitimate. If you legally scout from an airplane, forget it: not legitimate. If you shoot at 250 yards, not legitimate. If you kill an older regal elk, it's not legitimate.

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Originally Posted by Waders
Originally Posted by Shag
I'm in the group the ditches my orange for pics. Geeze, the guy kills one of the biggest bulls ever and all he gets is [bleep].


+1

If you're going to set up a pretty picture, you can do it any ol' way you want.

And as for buying the Governor's tag--I don't blame the guy for having a bunch of people scouting for him. When you spend $65K for a once in a lifetime opportunity, you'd best make it count.

The guy handed over the cash, got the help he needed, executed a plan and it all came together for him--on a fair chase hunt.

Good for him!


Perfect execution!


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Nice bull....I was sorta hoping that just your average everyday joe hunter who won the tag in a RAFFLE that EVERYONE can have a chance at minimal cost to enter would have bagged it. Im impressed only by the animal itself. Would the state still make their money for wildlife management through the use of a governor tag RAFFLE? Yes. So why does one person get the shot just because he has the deep pockets? I dont understand the "to the highest bidder" bullcrap. To me....its making a division of hunters...and thats not good for hunting.


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the guys a successful businessman from Oregon. hunting is his hobby and where he likes to spend his money. there were raffle hunters that had a legal tag for this animal. if he wants to spend his money in washington, so be it. he'd helps our wdfw budget. i say congratulations to him. even though i love the diy hunts, if this is how he likes to hunt, i'm happy if he's happy.

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I live here in wa. I have researched this enough for my tastes. I am gonna say this...that is a big bull, I would be the proudest hunter alive to have it as my own, but I would sure as grass is green hope that the guys I hunted it with were all close friends of mine. if the guides were just guys keeping tabs on this bull I would be embarrased to be the guy who shot it.

mr agnew, thanks for the $$, I wish it had gone to protecting our wildlife instead of the comunist socialist state of the peoples republic of new california. if you simply shot a cornered bull, I hope you write a book on how to sleep at night.


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I doubt that any bull of this stature could be considered an "easy" kill, even with help. Sure, friends can try to keep track of it, but a bull can travel 5 miles in a night, or drop into a nasty hole, and never be seen again. The bull is on his home turf, and he has senses fined tuned over many years of survival. Just because the hunter got the elk on the second day doesn't imply it was easy. The hunter could have gone all season and ended up with a $65,000 tag in his pocket.

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BroncoLope: Once you have taken enough pictures of harvested Big Game Animals you will get tired of the "blaze orange" clothing in the photos that overwhelms the color balance sense of the image.
I always take off my blaze orange garments when I take, or have taken, pictures of the Game and myself.
This "overwhelming" of the color balance is ESPECIALLY offensive or noticeable when posing with Mt. Goats, Antelope and Bears!
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High_country_: Why on God's green earth would you be embarassed to use a "guide" while Hunting?
That is what "guides" do!
Among many, many other things they (guides!) "keep tabs" on the game in their Hunting areas!
I am puzzled and baffled by the negativity of your posting.
Do YOU have some proof this fine trophy was taken in any manner other than fair chase - if so please state your proof!
Otherwise I suggest your "Washington taxed to death and miserable attitude" should not be so negatively projected upon this Hunter and his fine trophy!
I congratulate the Hunter for taking such a wonderful trophy and for doing it in Washington!
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These last 11 years living and Hunting year round here in Montana have been the happiest most wonderful years of my life"!
High_country_, I think you need a break from "Taxington"!

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Originally Posted by VarmintGuy
High_country_: Why on God's green earth would you be embarassed to use a "guide" while Hunting?
That is what "guides" do!
Among many, many other things they (guides!) "keep tabs" on the game in their Hunting areas!
I am puzzled and baffled by the negativity of your posting.
Do YOU have some proof this fine trophy was taken in any manner other than fair chase - if so please state your proof!
Otherwise I suggest your "Washington taxed to death and miserable attitude" should not be so negatively projected upon this Hunter and his fine trophy!
I congratulate the Hunter for taking such a wonderful trophy and for doing it in Washington!
Hold into the wind
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PS: "I was born, raised and learned to Hunt in Washington. I lived there for 49 years and then I retired and moved to Montana!
These last 11 years living and Hunting year round here in Montana have been the happiest most wonderful years of my life"!
High_country_, I think you need a break from "Taxington"!




wow, where to start? ok, I have no problem at all with paying taxes. I live a good life,drive paved roads, my neighbors house caught on fire and was extingushed before it was lost, the mail shows up most days.....taxation is not even an issue for me. representation......now we can talk. I live on the east side of washington which might as well be a foreign country. we are forgoten by the west side.

I have no disrespect AT ALL for guides. I have many a great friends that are guides and they all do what they love for next to nothing.....hats off to them.

how is a group of guys keeping tabs on a bull that gets shot by a guy who has only been out of his plane for 2 hours guiding.........that is what makes me ill. I wish WA was more like AK.

you need to understand that WA residents have to chose which wepon they will use to hunt with, then they will be given a tag for a spike bull. assuming the hunter gun hunts, he will have roughly 80 hours of legal light to hunt in for the whole season. allowing a person to buy his way past the laws does not sit well with me. I am not alone. The "guides" did what they do. good for them, I would be happy to put that on my resume' HOWEVER I, as in ME, have not used the services of a guide, would feel embarrased to hunt my own state with a guide (even my close friends). Paying to hunt is killing my state. every year it becomes more like texas, buy your lease then go hunt. it's not real popular with us who used to simply fix fences and hang signs for a permission slip, now it seems about 2g's is what is prefered to a helping hand from a neighbor.

it is not the guides that I am negative twards, its not taxes, it is the way hunting in my state is becoming a rich mans sport, I don't care for it at all.

none the less, that is a whopper of a bull. it's too bad it got all the publicity, I bet the draw odds are really screwd now.

have a great day.

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Originally Posted by Waders
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I'm in the group the ditches my orange for pics. Geeze, the guy kills one of the biggest bulls ever and all he gets is [bleep].


+1

If you're going to set up a pretty picture, you can do it any ol' way you want.

And as for buying the Governor's tag--I don't blame the guy for having a bunch of people scouting for him. When you spend $65K for a once in a lifetime opportunity, you'd best make it count.

The guy handed over the cash, got the help he needed, executed a plan and it all came together for him--on a fair chase hunt.

Good for him!


+100. I have NINE preference points for Eastern Oregon elk next fall. I can promise you I'll draw an excellent unit, and then I'll use up ALL my greenstamps with the highly successful Eastern Oregon elk hunters I know and may even hire a guide. The guide won't cost me $65K, but I think the nine years of my life waiting to draw the tag is worth motr than $65K.........

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Congrats to Dan !!!!!! I have knpwn him and his family for over 50 years and Dan is a very hard working hunter that can afford the very best in equipment and hunts.



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Sounds like a bunch of politicians and green eyed monsters, because someone has worked hard, been successful, and can buy a $65,000 elk tag that really does a lot of good and absolutly no harm, and its a fair chase hunt with a guide, and he gets bashed..Something is wrong with this picture and that is exactly what is wrong with our country today...Everyone wants to punish anyone that is successful and reward the losers. What a bunch of BS....

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Hi Country

In some respects I kind of agree with you on some of what you said, but not in this case. I lived in "the Heart of the Columbia Basin" for ten years and my wife and her family are from there and have lived all over the Columbia Basin and the Yakima Area. My grandfather prospected the area from the Columbia River to the Idaho Border in a covered wagon with his dad and my grandmother's family settled at Fort Spokane and I have relatives allover the eastside.

I lived in the area in the seventies and saw and know the owners of many of the prime farming/hunting land in the area lease their lands to the hunting clubs out of westside of the state and I've also seen the Doctors and the Lawyers come in from both the westside and out of state go in and hunt these lands and watched the local Game Wardon sit at the gate leaving said properties writing violation after violation for no hunting licenses, upland bird stamps,duck stamps and being in possession of birds two, three, four or more in excess legal limits.


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I mean no disrespect to me agnew himself, he took advantage of an opportunity. I simply dissagree with the opportunity.

I stand by my comment that money is destroying my states access.



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Private land access is being lost all over the country by those with deep pockets. Can't stop or change that. But in this case the man nailed one of the biggest bulls ever taken on 100% public land! And left a $65,000 donation to boot. Not a thing wrong with that.

Now the fact that he might have flown in and possibly over the said trophy in the same afternoon and killed it dose raise some ethical issues. And dose anyone know if that's even true?

Until they drag his ass in court and start to issue citations it should be considered nothing but legit and his research, effort and donation along with such a grand animal should receive praise from sportsman. To bash is simply IMO nothing more than a jealous man.

That is a one awesome bull!! I've also heard he killed a 420 plus bull in Arizon. And he hard to work much harder for that one! hell I'd give anything for a 450 class bull to drop from my shot a couple hours into the hunt! But pretty sure that aint gonna happen anytime soon..LOL I wonder if he has a daughter that hasn't wed yet? smile




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near as I can tell it is not illegal to land your plane and shoot a bull 2 hours later here


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I thought I'd read in the game regs a couple of years ago that here in Washington that was illegal to hunt on the same day that you used an aircraft to locate game, but it said nothing about the legality of hunting on the same day of coming in on a commercial flight.


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how many commercial airports are there in walla walla?


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