Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Rifles Remingtons new line if Triangle Barrel Rifles??

Ok, so I was just looking at the new 2009 Remington catalog online.
I know they had a varmint rifle last year that has a barrel that is triangle shaped - looks kind of cool I guess since I'm big on fluted barrels why not. Well per the catalog they now offer one in a hunting rifle - the new model XHR rifle.
So, just wondering if there is any practical reason for making a triangle shaped barrel. Would it end up cooling better or? Or just the latest gimmick.
Just wondering, besides that they also have a pretty nice looking tactical rifle.

Maybe stiffer? I just wonder how vibration can be uniform. A friend of mine has a 700 VTR and shoots some pretty good groups with it.

Proof is in the pudding as they say.

If triangle barrels were better you would see the benchrest crowd using them.

As far as I know they are not. Now I do not follow the benchrest crowd so I may be wrong, but if there was ever a group of firearms people more willing to do anything to get the most accurate firearm, I sure do not know about them. I would find a benchrest forum and post your question to them.

...Barrels don't get stiffer when material is removed from them, no matter the final shape they are machined to. The stiffness of a barrel is a result of the "quantity" of steel used, not the finished shape. Unless the triangular barrel provides a dimension that incorporates more steel, it will not be stiffer than a barrel of round configuration incorporating a like quantity of steel.Many people seem to mistakenly believe that fluting a barrel, for example, causes increased stiffness. Not so! Removing steel decreases stiffness, but certainly, because it increases surface area,it will be an aid to more rapid cooling( and of course reduces weight).

....In my view, a trangle shaped barrel will yield no improvement in rifle performance. Wait and see...OMO..

But I suppose they will sell a bunch just because it looks kinda cool.

One new good one that is listed for 2009, their CDL stainless fluted in 257 Roberts - that is one on my hit list. It would be a fun black tail/antelope gun.

Hey Dan360 doesn't your fiance' maybe need one of those you said you needed a new gun...

Not true. For a given amount of steel the moment of inertia of the cross section, which changes with shape, influences the resistance to bending.

Note that I am not saying removing material from an already made barrel will make it stiffer.

Saw the same in the catalog this AM. Imagine it'll look neat, if nothing else. Noticed these will use mag contour barrels, but don't recall if they were ported or not. Suspect not.

Actually, it is not the amount of steel that is the primary determinant of stiffness but the distance from the centerline to the outer edge. The reason a fluted barrel is stiffer than a non-fluted barrel of like weight is the fluted barrel is larger in diameter.

Since a triangular barrel can have a greater distance from the centerline to the extreme edges, it may well do a better job of providing greater stiffness for a given weight. Whether the difference is better than a round, fluted barrel remains to be seen.

Recall if you will high school geometry class. Or at least look at the trusses in your attic. The triangle is the stiffest geometric form. It would also follow that the triangle shaped barrel would trump a round barrel in the heat dissipation department.

I am of the opinion that the triangle shaped barrel would be vastly superior to a round barrel.. for a jack handle. I picked up one of them at the local firearms emporium. I do not remember which model it was. I was greatly impressed by the mass of the thing.

That would make sense if barrels were two dimensional and we were trying to crush them. But thank god, we're not, and they are three dimensional.

The triangular shaped barrel makes some sense from a weight reduction standpoint, and a lot of sense from a sales standpoint.

all I can say is as new as they are and as many has been sold, I sure do see alot of barely used ones for sale in the classifieds on the various boards. kinda makes you go ummmmmmm

just saw the catalog. They haven't dropped the 260 YET.

As far as the tri-barrel...hell, if it shoots go for it.

A friend of mine has a new triangle barrel 308 with the top ported muzzle brake section, I think it's a VTR. When he finally gets it scoped up I'll have him shoot it with a couple of reference loads. We'll know the story pretty quick. If a 308 won't shoot a 168 grain match bullet on top of 46 grains of Varget it's ailing somewhere.

Furthermore, the elastic modulus for plain carbon steel is about the same as that of any barrel alloy. No appreciable "stiffness" difference between a given contour in CM versus stainless.

Another gimmic me thinks.Remember the electronic primer and how far that went????

Would these barrels be cheaper to manufacture in the triangular shape?

if the blanks are triangles there is less waste as a square split diaganally in half, but I believe round blanks are extruded that way

Just scanned the back section of the new catalog. No 1-8" .22CF offerings, in spite of all this "long range" and "precision" talk that is found throughout the rifle section.

I've handled a couple. Odd ducks. That stock would be a throwaway if you rebarreled it in the future.

The .223 did have the fastest twist Remington offers in a .223, which is a 1-9" if I remember right. That, and the cost, was why I even picked it up to look at it.

If your a lefty and want a new SS Remington now would be the time to buy an XCR as no more LH SS guns appear anymore in 2009. I swear this company's marketing and sales strategy seem to be governed by using a Quija board!


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