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I was the one who said it wasn't a laughing matter. I think you have the wrong guy.

When I was quite young, I was with a fella that chambered a .303 British Round into a 7mm Rem Mag. The rifle was a Parker Hale 1100. The bolt stayed in the rifle, but had sheared a lug or two. The stock was split, and the trigger guard assembly had come apart. There was a lot of powder, brass, and steel in this guy's face. He went on to recover fully, after a large magnet was used to pull the steel from his eye and face. The sights and sounds of those few moments will stay with me forever, and define everything I know, and will ever learn about rifle safety. Upon later inspection, the .303 slug made it about 2 inches into the barrel. That rifle and bolt took the full force of that round, a fact that I am both amazed and thankful for. Things like this can happen to anyone, anytime. They not only affect the shooter, but everyone involved. Just thought I would share, and wish this fella, his hunting pards and family, a speedy recovery.
Make mine a Mauser as well.
R.

Hawkeye,, You are Right,, You are the Wrong guy, and confused

I am confused by confusing conduct. Next time you wish to criticize someone's statement, provide a quote identifying who you're criticizing, or at least hit reply from the post you wish to criticize, not from someone else's post. It's just the honorable and decent thing to do. I hope that's not asking too much of you.

Hawkeye,, I went back and read my post,, you are correct, I apologize,, no harm intended,, Randy

Good deal.

You're still confused though, bro'!!!

If that's a joke, Isaac, how about a smilie?

It was certainly a joke and I don't know how to do the smiley thingy!

And, I was getting tired of writing grin like a dumb-azz all the time.

But yeah....it was intended as fun...or more like smart-assed!


As long as I keep getting those awesome recipes, I'm going easier and I will just let the primaries do my talking...again, the grin.

Did you get the Pasta [bleep] recipe I gave to Mrs. 280 on the last food thread?

No, but I'll graciously accept it now! And thanks.

I'll PM it to you.

The design of the Mossberg is probably OK, but the manufacture and assembly certainly needs better quality control. Manufacturers try to reduce costs through component engineerng (cast vs. forged, stamping vs. milled, etc.). Nothing wrong with this approach, but it does require more attention to detail.

Shucks, that's so easy that even I can do it. Just type grin, smile, or wink between colons (:like this:) to get one of these:
: + grin + : =
: + smile + : =
: + wink + : =

There are others, too � for example:
� (eek)
� (sick)

When you see one in a post and want to see how to make it, click on Quote at the bottom of that post and study the results.

kwel

is there an actual news article we can read bout these incidents?

How are is the lug section on Rem 700 bolts attached?

That's a SAVAGE bolt.

Its a MOSSBERG that blew.

Savages BOLTS are plenty strong by design.

The Mossberg BOLTS have a different design.

Its the barrel nut that makes the two seem similar, not the bolts.

My 2 cents.

BMT

From looking at the picture of the Mossburg bolt, I get the impression that the lugs perform no usefull function at all.

Every bit of the bolt thrust force is dependent on that one pin, which likes it is about 1/4" in diameter.

Basically, what you have is a bolt being held in place by a 1/4" diameter pin. Compare the area and shear strength of the pin to the area of the lugs on an 03 Springfield, 98 Mauser, M700, M70, and especially the Mark 5 Wby.

The safety lug on an 03 is larger, and I would think, much stronger that the pin in the Mossburg, and some rifles even use the bolt handle base as an extra safety measure in the event the locking lugs somehow failed.

It looks like the least Mossburg could have done would have been to design a safety lug into the bolt, in the event the pin failed.

I wonder if any of these rifles were ever fired with proof loads before they left the factory. If so, then the proof load could have weakened the pin enough that a normal load would cause it to shear.

The lugs on a M700 are brazed or welded on. I wonder if any test have ever been made to determine how much force it would take to shear the lugs off a Remington bolt.

In my opinion, a shear pin is one of the weakest mechanical designs ever made. Some machines are made with a shear pin incorporated into the design so that the pin is the weakest link, and will shear before other, more extensive damage can occur.

It appears that Mossburg failed to read that particular page in that particular book.

Mossberg bolt head-like Savage without the baffle.