Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Rifles Its possible that a .223 works on deer better than 30-06?

am contemplating getting a stevens bolt action center fire; have known that these are actually savage rifles without all the frills; have read that they are good 'tool' guns; down and dirty and work well; looking at a 22-250 which is not new to me , but found I can buy this long arm for $265 new;

anyone have any input on if this is a good buy


The above question was asked by mw0248. The same person that said a 223 would tumble past 100 yards is wanting to pay money for a Stevens or as he said "Savage without the frills" 22-250. If a 22 cal. barrel chambered for 223 wont shoot straight why would a 22-250???????

What? .243 maybe good for head shots on does, as if does are easier to kill and less valuable than bucks, let along the fact that thousands of deer have been humanely killed with .243s....
As for the .223 tumbling comment, I'm waving the absolute BS flag here guy, along with the blade of grass comment. The .223 was not designed as a hunting round, but I've seen plenty of deer killed with it. I'll never use it, I like my .243s, .30-06s, and .260s too much and never wonder about penetration. I'd LOVE to see some empirical data to back up the tumbling comment, that should be one heck of a read!

Agreed... I'm with Steelhead in that I don't consider the .223 the equal of the 30-06 (say) as a deer round, but what mw0248 stated is just wrong on the face of it...

You are an amazing idiot. I DO consider the 223 a deer cartridge, period.

mw0248 just needs to read posts and let people will first hand knowledge and expierence answer questions. As a matter of fact I don't know why anyone that has not killed a few deer with a 22 centerfire is even posting on this thread. If you took away all the posts that don't have expierence reckon how many pages would be left?

You are saying what I've been saying all along. Will a .223 work? Of COURSE it will. Is it the best choice if you care about the hunt, as in you have a hard tag to draw, paid a bunch of money, don't know the circumstances of the shot (distance, likely conditions, etc)... or if you just plain CARE a lot about every deer you hunt because you only get one or two tags a year...

Of COURSE it isn't.

You can spin this however you want, and I'm sure you will, but the fact is you know I'm right, you agree with it, and you stated just that.

So set up your straw man arguments, call me your childish names, bring in your buddies to make vile personal comments, do your normal thing. It don't matter to me. Right is right, and I'm right.

Of course, so were you, in your post above.

Dude, I told you why I wouldn't use one on a guided hunt, don't want to listen to idiots like you telling me it won't work. The fact that I've never been on a guided hunt and likely never will should preclude that from being an issue.

I would take a 223AI deer hunting anyplace I've hunted deer and will continue to do so, assuming it's legal to be used.

Tell me the critters you've shot with either the 30/06 and the 223 and you'll have something to discuss, otherwise you are doing the only thing you know how to do, GUESS, and you ain't very good at that.

This sums you up

"Stupid can either be spawned from a persons unwillingness to correct their ignorance or not acknowledging their obvious ignorance.

Educated does not equal intelligent. Intelligence is the ability to acknowledge your ignorance and work through it without showing your stupidity."

You are both stupid and unintelligent.

I will say if you are the type of hunter who only gets a shot at a deers butt once a year a 223 might not be for you. But I still don't know what caliber to recomend for that.

God forbid he eat 'tag' soup. I can't begin to count the number of stupid posts Jack Off has made but there appears to be no end in sight. Might even be a pun there

When you can't get yourself in position for a good clean shot...

Get a bigger gun and shoot anywhere on the body.

I would say these folks need to learn to bowhunt but on second thought no way.

I had to let by far the biggest buck I've ever seen walk back a few years ago. I've no doubt it would go 160's(I have one on the wall that is 145" and some change and this one was much bigger) and that's real big for our farm in TN. I was bowhunting and had no shots. I never saw him again and I'm shure I never will. That's how hunting goes somethimes.

Of course there are those who say a .277 cannot kill like a .284, so a 224 cannot kill deer like a 243.

Then there are those who don't/won't/can't and tell all sundry we cannot either...

Less meat damage with a 224, J.O..

this is the most accurate statement of the whole thread

This was my brother's response when I informed him a .223 is the chit for wildass Breaks bucks. Seriously the only deer he has shot was with a .22-250(nice buck on a calm day).

Never mind I'm intellegent,I'll acknowledge my ignorance as this is the most accurate statement

Hmm Sammy, your bro knows sign language eh...

Dober

Well, it's a good thing that one doesn't need a PhD to enjoy this sport/hobby. Give me the 30-06 and leave me to my ignorant bliss! If the omniscient can get it all done with the .223, God bless'em.

I'm deaf so he keeps it simple Dober....grin


We all know a 223 will kill a deer.
A bigger gun just gives a guy alot more thump for the all to often less than ideal situation. I'll take the extra thump.

I hear that Sam....grins

As well I agree with your thoughts on the 223 vs 06. I've seen enough done in by both to know when and where the diff becomes evident.

Dober

As with many things, avoiding extremes most everything works just fine on deer.