Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Rifles Its possible that a .223 works on deer better than 30-06?

hunting season is over and we are all just bored!

Terry makes a good point, we(myself included) pxss all over the mini14 and yet people hunt with it and get good results. Many pxss all over the .223 but people hunt with it and get good results. Mule Deer said the longest running deer he has seen was one shot thru the lungs by his wife with a 30-06 and a 180 grain bullet, I duplicated that experience this year once again for the 3 or 4th time. So I am going to try some softer bullets. So for 20-40 yard shots I cannot see the .223 with a 70 grain speer or 63 grain TSX being that much worse especially for our small southern whitetail deer, in some cases it might even work better.

IF I may bring a big brother of the .223, to a $6000 hunt, I would do it. Anything that shoots the 62 grain TSX or the 60 grain G.S.Custom to 4,000 feet per second works for me. It would work to 400 yards.

Terry (TCI) got mad at me once for dissing the accuracy (or lack of) of the mini-14... it really is about the only thing wrong with those suckers. I owned one, put a lot of rounds through it, and had a bud with another one that I shot a fair amount. Both sucked hind tit in the accuracy department, but what neat little rifles other than that little detail! I just love 'em.

Folks have been saying that the new model Mini is, on average, more accurate. Dunno if I'd go .223 or not, but, a decently accurate Mini would be a very cool rifle in whatever caliber one chose to run!

Rabble rouser!

It's been nice that, on this most recent thread, good ol' Steelhead finally admitted that on a hunt he cared about he'd run a heavier cartridge. That's all I've been saying all along. Nice to be in agreement with the man. Kumbaya, hugs all around, brotherly love, high-five's and handshakes... it's all good.

Out of curiousity, DVDGeorge, what did you run for deer this year as far as a CF rifle? If I remember right you mostly muzzleload hunt...

I'm going to shoot an elephant in the face with a 223AI now.

I know, lets start a 'What's a Good Cartridge for Black Bears' so Jeff can get a couple of pages of guessing in.

No, but if you take the position that a .223 is superior to a 30-06 for black bears I will be glad to debate you on it...

The way I read your post Steelhead, you were saying that the 300 Win Mag was the minimum you'd use on deer (if you cared about killing them).

Don't bother confirming, I know what's right and I'm right, so even if that's not what you said, I'm going to run with it and repeat it as often as possible, attributing it to you. Pretty sure I know what you think better than you do anyway.

There needs to be a black bear forum first...

Oh yeah, Steelhead will be living with the FACT that he said he'd not use a .223 on a paid mulie hunt for as long as he continues to be such a PH towards me, about this subject... you can bet on it.

Between his slip-up there and Paul W. emerging from his alchoholic haze long enough to barf up one of the most vile hairballs I've seen on this forum, and then get thrashed for it, this thread has been just peachy...

At least a few truths have been uttered on this thread.

We need to figure out how to hook SH and I up to some sort of power generator... we could run a small city... grin...

your a tool... plain and simple...

Jeff, you think that Bigfoot stole your elk head from a tree limb while Yeti made scratch marks on a nearby tree trunk and that a blue piece of tape wrapped around the end of your barrel will scare deer away for miles. And that voting for Obama was the right thing to do because Palin is scary.

Your powers of perception are... well, questionable would be a compliment.

You are worse than that, Paul. And many more than just me now know it, if they didn't already. That's on YOU... not me.

cwh2, boy can YOU mis-represent things. Is this an Alaskan thing, or does it just seem that way virtually all of the time?

i'm hurt. really. but your still and idiot!

Sorry, Jeff, I should have been more clear. I'm not asking you what you think, I'm telling you.

Should be familiar.

Neither was the 30'06, 308, 6.5x55, or the 7x57...

Perhaps we suffer fools less