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Peter, I didn't get the number,but as soon as it lands here i'll report in,seems so far everything is between 1000 -6000. Don

Don - on the engraved M435, did you agree with the sellers's assessment that the finish is all original?

Steve, It looked correct to me as far as i could tell, now the buttplate might be a problem looked like a winchester carbine,but i dont know what stevens had for options at the time, never seeing a model 435, i figured i could live with it regardless. Don

Don - the gun sold before from the same seller (in November) and was returned because it had been reblued and refinished.

Steve, I will know when it gets in hand! three day inspection period, How did you find that out? Don

Don - I do have some info. I tried to send you a p.m. but you are over your limit. I will say if you search the seller's completed auctions over the last 90 day period you will see that the rifle also sold in November. If you follow the feedback you will see that the buyer returned the rifle and received his money back. If you research the buyer, you will see he is a gun saavy guy with many high grade and collectable firearms for sale. He also has his own website that is pretty interesting.

Steve, Thanks for the info again, i went and deleted 5 pages of pm's maybe it will work now! Don

Don - pm sent (successfully)

#4034 in .25 Rem on Gunbroker
Another .25 unk serial nbr http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=121732402

Thanks pacecars. I already had both of these guns on the list. The second gun you listed is serial number 1223. The seller on gunbroker was kind enough to send the number to me.

We are now up to 31 not counting the model 435 that Don just bought.

Don -- the butt stock and buttplate on that 435 look strange to me also. The buttplate shown looks "cheaper" than the stock metal buttplate on a model 425. Sort of a backward step.

Peter

Well, I just received the serial numbers and calibers for three more guns:

2855 in .32 Rem
3804 in .30 Rem
4058 in .35 Rem

now the total is 34. Still none below 1000 or above 6000. But if 5000 High Power guns were manufactured, 34 would be an extremely LOW survival rate of only 0.68%. If only 1000 were manufactured, as claimed by Brophy in his Marlin book, the 34 guns on the list would represent a 3.4% rate; a far more believable number.

We need more numbers for a clearer picture.

Peter

Peter, Stevens high power model 435 , 32 Rem caliber, s/n 4940, trimmed buttstock!! Don

Don, thanks for the serial number info. Really sorry about the trimmed buttstock!!! What will you do?

Out of curiosity, how is the barrel marked? Does it say 435?

Peter

Peter, Yes the barrel is marked 435, i can live with the buttstock,i knew it was trimmed when i bid on it, The 425 with non-factory, period correct checkering that just sold on Gunbroker for over $1500 was kind of amazing!! to be factory checkered it would be stamped 430!!!! not 425!! someone got snookered! Don

I'm confused. The seller of that $1500+ gun that just sold on gunbroker stated that the checkering was NOT factory, and that it was a model 425. How did the buyer get snookered?

If you can find an original buttstock for your 435, you'll have made a good buy, compared to that $1500+ gun.

Peter

Peter, I just happen to think he may have "overpaid" for a non-factory checkered rifle, the checkering detracts from the value of a standard rifle!! My trimmed buttstock bothers me a lot less on a rare engraved model. Don

I have been trying to find this since this post started, finally found it right where I put it, just couldn't remember where that was! It's an original advertising flier that measures 3.5" x 6". (PS - yes I did find it in the last place I looked).


I looked at the serial numbers that have been documented so far and took note of the gaps between them. The 4 largest are 687, 537, 347 and 292 - the smallest 15, 16, 17 and then about 25 (is from incomplete serial no.). The gaps seem to be evenly spread out with the 2 of the 4 largest coming from the ends. From this I would not expect to find a larger gap on either end of the numbers collected so I do not expect a no. 1 and would think it reasonable that 1000 may have been the start, I also would not expect to break 6000 (or not to go over by much). I have looked for several different model guns over the last few years with known production numbers and really feel from what I have seen that 1000 is to small a number for the 425, I would be more inclined to think that we are looking at about 5000 that run from 1000 to about 6000.

Gene, thats great to have an original sales brochure!! i'm thinking the numbers 1000-6000 could be the magic numbers. Don

I agree - neat original flier!

Gene and Don, you guys may be correct, although even if we can account for 50 guns, that's only a 1% survival rate which I think is very low. Also, I'm still stuck on the fact that Savage could not separate out the Stevens High Power rifle from the other rifle in the production file. If the Stevens numbers were consectutive I would think it would be easy to separate the two rifles.

At least, now it seems from the number on Don's model 435 that all of the High Power rifles were numbered in the same series.

Peter

I have added another gun to our list, #4677 in .35 Rem.

We still have fewer than 50 guns listed which, if 5000 is the number of guns manufactured, is a very small survival rate of less than 1%. I have to think that with a gun like this the survival rate would be at least 10% - and probably much higher.

I may be wrong, but I don't believe that people throw away their guns. I know I never have.

Peter