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handloader,



All of this so-called great leadership at what cost?



"For the first time in decades America has a true leader as President that has seen the evils of radical Islamic powers and has taken definitive steps to protect all of us."



To be very honest, I have very little knowledge of the religion Islam, although from what I understand its Christianity based ethnic. If that's the case like the different ethnic religions in this country they should be allowed to practice their religion without government interference, that would especially hold true to a foreign government.

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It looks like I'll be using ignore for the first time.

So long Larrymartin, your not wanted.

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Do any of you remember the fact that LBJ had huge investments in the company that made UH1H Huey helicopters?

Rick baby, you just made my point, thank you, the economy clearly was improving towards the end of the Bush SR presidency, but thanks to our liberal media, guess who they didnt tell. The day you ever convince me Democrats are good for business, that s the day the world will end. Let's get real, democrats dont create "real" jobs. They create lazy SOB's...............oh, that's right, you call them consitutents.

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Larry,
You may be on to something.
The problem is finding another Republican dumb enough to accept what Bush will leave behind. I have heard that they have contacted Tom Ridge former PA Governor.(thank yew Jesus) and now in charge of the NASCAR light terror warning system. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
I bet the RNC secretly fully supports John Kerry and already is preparing press releases blaming him for invading Iraq looking for mythical WMD's ,leveling the Country so Bechtel and Halliburton can build it back up with no bid Contracts, the Piss poor economy, and High fuel prices. This should work because they have blamed the Klinton Regime for everthing else. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
I wouldn't count Bush out yet, but He is on the Ropes bleeding badly and every Body bag coming back from Bushaq is more votes for Kerry. WHEN are we going to get people that know how to lead instead of taking bad advice? I guess money can't buy a Brain?
BTW My Neighbors Son called from Baghdad today and said to wish The President Happy Easter and hopes he doesn't injure himself choking on pretzles or swatting Mosquitos while he chases Easter eggs all over his lawn in Crawford TX. He also said that if Bush wants to really have fun on Easter come on Over and see how many RPG's you can avoid while eating the Spaghetti in your MRE's.


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Howdy Larry

Perhaps you have posed a rhetorical question or, maybe, you are simply trolling with homemade bait. But, hey, I'll bite.

For the first time in decades America has a true leader as President that has seen the evils of radical Islamic powers and has taken definitive steps to protect all of us. He has shown his managerial skills in selecting an intelligent and diverse Cabinet and the most effect NSA since the position was created. He has taken the measures domestically that will lead to greater prosperity for all of us. And he has had the courage to do this while paths of less resistence and controversy were available. He is no short term President fixated on the poll of the day.

Not only will he trounce Kerry, a candidate with a paucity of achievement, his victory in the coming election will reinforce those in America that still believe in its core values, the Constitution with emphasis on the 2nd Ammendment and are proud to say "In God We Trust". Me? I feel honored to be able to work 15 to 20 hours a week on behalf of his re-election. America could have no finer leader at this time in history.


After reading this I almost broke my foot running out side to salute the Flag. I forgot that my Wife took it down at sundown so I just got a beer out of the Refrigerator instead. If you could have given Bush advice we might not be eating the Sh*t sandwich from Iraq today <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


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Ray,
Well, is that post he made quoting you considered a bet or not? I never did see where he said anything about the bet other than the quote he pasted in from your post. I think we need to see it in Black and White, plain as our nose on our face so he can't weasel out of the bet. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> You know your not susposed to bet on a sure thing, you know <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> But if he wants to play another mans game, then so be it <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


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Hi Larry

Two houses down from mine lives a nice Muslim family. We talk frequently. They have a son in the Navy. They represent those followers of that religion that are wonderful people, deeply religious and loyal citizens of this country. They are very different from those members of radical Islam and they want to make sure that the neighborhood understands the difference.

If we read the fatwahs of various Imams we find a very different type of religious fervor, one that hates the Infidels (you and me) and one that has already justified our deaths, yours and mine, for merely being citizens of this country. While you and I, Larry, can discuss our viewpoints and pontificate loudly on our beliefs, the radicals of Islam have no tolerance and epitomize a religious totalitarianism that has no place within it for you and me. Radical Islam is the perfect definition of evil.

Radical Islam quotes passages from the Koran, interpretted to their point of view, that are chilling in the implications for any freedom loving country or people. Any means and all actions are justifiable to them to secure their vision of what the world should be. Need we recite again the countless acts of cowardly terrorism on their part, the hundreds and thousands of innocent lives slaughtered? If we are going to be effective in countering world wide or domestic terrorism we need to know our enemy.

Our posture in Iraq is frustrating for me as I see far too many good citizens swayed by the same liberal thinking that would have us believe that abortion and gay marriage somehow is justifiable. They would have us believe that our incursion into Iraq was revengeful, economically motivated or politically based. Now the evils of liberalism grasp the hand of the evils of Islam to work counter to the liberties and freedoms that we as people enjoy. While some of our fellow citizens revile the war in Iraq, they conveniently choose to ignore that the significant majority of their representatives signed on to combat Sadam and to reign in international terrorism.

If we deign to believe radical Islam is not the greatest threat to our way of life and to free peoples in the world then we are not worthy of the blood shed on our behalf by those that preceeded us and those that fight for our right to continue as the bastion of freedom. For his courageous decisions to prosecute this war I admire and follow my leader and President George Bush.


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I can only say, that when I read the posts from Inspector and Larry, thank God for my favorite son George W. Bush and another four years! Oh, can you even imagine a 911 under the "leadership" of Al (G)Bore! Just gotta luv the USofA and freedom of speech.

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I suspect that you are in for a long wait for larry to back up anything that he says. He will throw out a tidbit and when you reply and make him look the fool, he ignores that and changes the subject. miles


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"You may be on to something.

The problem is finding another Republican dumb enough to accept what Bush will leave behind. I have heard that they have contacted Tom Ridge former PA Governor.(thank yew Jesus) and now in charge of the NASCAR light terror warning system. "



Inspector , if the religious doctor an of Islam is based upon dark ages (medieval times} that's been passed down through generations, we're going to need a whole lot more than a warning system. The problem is very few understand what this doctor an is about and if openly practiced is seen as evil by those of ignorance. No different than some of early settlers in this country were seen as witches. The problem is this country people are not aware that very important scripture was left out of the holy Bible deliberately to keep the innocent from being unfairly crucified.

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Handloader, while your post is very good, I go a step farther. What is the difference in "radical" Islam and those Muslim who profess to love US "infidels" but to my knowledge have never (in any large numbers) publicly condemned their "radical" Islamic brothers?

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Inspector , if the religious doctor an of Islam is based upon dark ages (medieval times} that's been passed down through generations, we're going to need a whole lot more than a warning system. The problem is very few understand what this doctor an is about and if openly practiced is seen as evil by those of ignorance. No different than some of early settlers in this country were seen as witches. The problem is this country people are not aware that very important scripture was left out of the holy Bible deliberately to keep the innocent from being unfairly crucified.

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Yeah, and when Kerry wins and the economy improves, you can credit baby Bush again. Sounds like Republican (pretzel)logic at its finest.

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Guys, I'm just starting to have fun. LOL!. If my previous post didn't blow some of your minds this will. My family roots in this country go back to September 30 1727 is when my first relatives landed in Philadelphia. My great-grandfather about seven or eight times removed landed here Sept. 21 1731. All my relatives on both my mother's and fathers sided were very religious people. My mothers religion was Brethren and my dads very strict Mennonites . They came here to practice their faith freely in the New World. Along with them they brought their doctor an that included Scriptures or books in most part written by Moses that have been left out of most modern-day Bibles. And because some of the ignorance that was displayed early on in this country they took these books into hiding for good reason. For most part these old Scriptures about healing through faith and it does work. There's even a special way these old books are transfer within ones family for security reasons . There referred to as the bluebooks.

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Something else that some of you might find interesting about some of my conservative relatives and their relation to the business community. The founders of Grove manufacturing that is now calls ( Grove worldwide )in Greencastle PA are my cousins John L. and his older brother Dwhite Grove. that originally started making farm wagons . John L. also is the founder of JLG based in McConnellsburg PA . recently died several months ago. He also was partners and investor in a chain of nationall named hotels.

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Larry,
Being just another enlightend "Bush basher" is one thing but you now have even me confused <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />.
You use the word "Doctor an" which leaves most here totally immersed in the dark. I think what your looking for is the word "doctrine" or even "agenda"?
Stating unpopular beleifs is one thing, but confusing the people your trying to convince with words that don't exist is
looked upon as just stupid.
Most here can't see the difference because of lack of available reading light in their Anal cavities,
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