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Pac-nor isn't my favorite either, mainly for the quality of the smithing services I got from them. However, saying that got me roasted over the coals last time I posted that here, so I'll shut up now.
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You think you got roasted? Go back a year or so and read what they said about me. It got so bad I could have swarn someone placed a Pac-Nor barrel in Christ's hand when he was on the cross. All I said was I had a bad experience on another forum and it made it over here. You just cannot beat Shilen's customer service, period!
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Evan, A 700 Short is a great action to build a WSM on, provided either you start with a SAUM action or your smith is moderately skilled. I've done it three times with a 4th in the works, and my smith has done a pile of them on top of mine.
I think they feed better out of the 700 than they do out of a 70 that was designed for them.
BTW, that's a great town you live in. I've been through there several times and have a couple buddies that live there.
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Pac-Nors smithing services disappointed me also. I just received my new 6.5/06 and the throat is rather short causing the need to seat the bullets deep! The cannulure of a Hornady is stuffed more than an 1/8" inside the trimmed case mouth.
And another thing, which is (my shortcoming) for not noticing prior to placing the order. My Pac-Nor #3 is actually heavier than my Lilja # 4! So I would caution everyone to examine the contours section carefully. Keep in mind their cylinder dimension is 3" before the radius begins, and their knuckle dimension is also thicker than many other brands.
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Just some useful information about ordering from Pac-Nor.
When ordering a specific contour you need to state the finished length of the barrel.
A #3 contour has a muzzle diameter of .625" at a length of 28 inches. When you cut that off to 22" your muzzle diameter at that point will be about .04" larger. If you want a #3 contour at 22" you must say so, they will make the diameter .625 at 22" and work back toward the breech end from that, so a #3 at 22" is a lot lighter overall than a #3 at 28". Trust me, I know this from experience. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
Also you can specify the shank length. On my most recent barrel I asked for a 2 1/2" long shank on a #3 contour and they cut it like that.
FWIW, I like the factory contours on my Remingtons and Winchesters and most often have asked them to duplicate those, which they have done quite accurately.
No extra charge for any of the above alterations to their "standard" contours.
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i think your the first one to think this is great town, I think it is but ivve lived here for all my life, though I have traveld to the east coast and worked for awhile so its not like I havent seen a few places. so far I havent found anywhere Id rather be.
Im gla
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EVAN,,Idaho is a great place....................next to MONTANA!!!( pun intended ) <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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yeah Idaho is great next to montana <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
things are kinda going haywire, now, ive found that I can get the stock i want.
thing think hs just got dropped as my stock choice for this rifle, and acurate inovations wins hands down do to desing and my style. actualy think i may have to get a few of them.
tell me more about these gunsmiths, Id rather not even have to deal with a smith at all, but from what you guys say it may not be the best thing to ship my rifle of to a barrel maker.
sounds like the best thing to do is decide what barrel i want get it in my hands and then find a smith who will install it.
anyone in the Boise area know of any good ones, Im sure there are goods ones here somewhere
Thanks
Evan
ps
what would you all think of starting with a howa wsm
Last edited by Evan; 06/08/04.
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